Absolute DMV

Baltimore Bridge Tragedy and Kendrick's Rap Impact with a Side of P Diddy Scandal

eGogh, Ace Boogie, Marc 2Ray, A-Train and Swank Season 1 Episode 6

Send us a text

As the city of Baltimore grapples with the aftermath of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse, our hearts go out to everyone affected by this catastrophe. Our latest episode takes you through the tangled maze of emotions and repercussions following this disaster, with a special focus on the community's resilience and the urgent need for infrastructure modernization. We reflect on the historical ties between Baltimore and the DMV, showing our respect and renewed solidarity with our neighbors.

Switching gears, we step into the vibrant world of hip-hop where the lines between competition and creativity blur. The buzz around Kendrick Lamar's latest lyrical grenade has the rap community on the edge of their seats, and we're right there with them, dissecting every bar. We also consider the intriguing dynamics of rap's powerhouse trio—Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, and Drake—as they navigate the balance between collaboration and rivalry, their contributions shaping the very fabric of the genre.

Finally, we don't shy away from the stark, confronting issues of the day. The allegations swirling around P Diddy have us examining the weight of social media speculation and its real-world implications. And through the grim lenses of "The Wire," we confront the haunting reality of human trafficking, promising to delve deeper into the intricate relationship between life and art in episodes to come. Buckle up for a ride through the complexities of modern culture, where every word and revelation has the power to shake foundations.

Speaker 1:

DMV. Welcome everybody to another episode of the Absolute DMV Podcast. It's your man, ace Boogie. I'm here with a few good guys. Y'all know who it is my man, mark.

Speaker 2:

Hey, what's going on, y'all.

Speaker 1:

My man A-Train Hello all hey Swank, what's up, what's up. And Eall my man a train hello all hey swank, what's up, what's up. And ego on the boards yo, what we got going on this week, gentlemen. Oh actually, I'm jumping straight into it. Fuck it, jump. Well, jump straight into it is probably yeah we're gonna fall into it, all right, let me stop. No, diddy. Hey, I want to send condol, condolences to the people that lost their lives on the Francis Scott Key Bridge.

Speaker 3:

And the families, and the families.

Speaker 1:

Our condolences, the first responders, everybody. It's an unfortunate situation that we got going on in Baltimore. I mean I'm not going to say pray for Baltimore because it didn't get bombed or anything, so everybody in Baltimore is going to be okay. It's just traffic is going to mess things up a little bit. It's going to mess up the economy in Baltimore a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

A lot. So things in Baltimore could get a little dicey, because we do know that Baltimore is well, it's Baltimore. Let's just say that.

Speaker 5:

And let me say this I know on one of our I think our first episode, we were, like you know, baltimore is not part of the dmv and whatever, whatever we slept on your baltimore.

Speaker 1:

we apologize, you know we I mean you're still not a part of the dmv, but, um, we still love you and we hope that you guys are gonna do well. I mean, I'm not going to baltimore anytime soon. I don't what traffic is going to be like trying to get into Baltimore, so I'm going to leave it alone. I'm going to stay on my side of town, shots fired oh, I think I got side effects.

Speaker 5:

This is wonderful God damn.

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 1:

It's no shots towards Baltimore.

Speaker 2:

I have no beef with anyone from Baltimore, I got a lot of love for Baltimore Straight up love.

Speaker 5:

Norma Jeans.

Speaker 1:

There's a couple other places.

Speaker 5:

Mad that Norma Jeans was the first place Shout out to Norma Jeans.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to Norma Jeans the way. Shout out to norma jeans. So I got plenty of love for baltimore I've never been to the paradox, but I hear it was jumping in there. So you know I'm saying, shout out to that. Um, yeah, I, I go to the harbor. Yeah, the harbor is really nice, absolutely like I love the Hooters Fells Point. You go in there.

Speaker 2:

Fells Point is cool. Fells Point is cool. Halloween at Fells Point is amazing.

Speaker 6:

Is it? Yeah, I just remember Power Plant Really.

Speaker 1:

Power Plant, espn Zone, all that other stuff. Is it still there? I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2:

One of them there. I know Dave and Buster's Dave and Buster's is there, I think ESPN, I don't know actually.

Speaker 6:

I think they replaced that with Dave and Buster's.

Speaker 2:

That might have been it, you said Halloween.

Speaker 1:

If you go to Halloween to celebrate Halloween, hey guys. That was like 10 minutes ago. Hey guys, Can we get back on topic?

Speaker 6:

Bring it back home.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, shout out to Baltimore. How about the Wire HBO? Anyway, shout out to.

Speaker 6:

Baltimore Francis Scott Key Bridge. How about the Wire? My bad, my bad, hbo.

Speaker 1:

The Francis Scott Key Bridge was crashed into by a cargo boat from A-Train. Where was it from? Singapore, singapore yeah, singapore. Yes, a cargo boat from Singapore Apparently lost power and crashed into one of the pillars holding up the bridge, which allowed the bridge to fall in several moments after the bridge had been hit Not even several.

Speaker 2:

Like less than a second. It's immediately. That's the thing that really threw me off is like watching the video. It's like in regular time, not even sped up at all. It's amazing to see just how fast like a second, and the whole thing is underwater.

Speaker 6:

Well, it said it was going nine miles an hour. So nine miles an hour, that's pretty fast.

Speaker 1:

It's the size of the boat.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say it's the size of the boat. And it was full of cargo.

Speaker 6:

Well, so I guess people were saying there's different ways of thinking.

Speaker 1:

I thought the video was time-lapse.

Speaker 6:

That's all I'm going to say. It could be yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, it was in real time.

Speaker 1:

It was, it was in real time, so you can see

Speaker 2:

like the boat is moving real slow because it's a big boat and nine miles an hour from a distance looks real slow, but when the actual impact happens you can see everything falling and that clearly is not in slowed down because that's at a different space, different pace. And yeah, it was crazy. I mean, I think that essentially you have these. Francis Scott Key Bridge was built long enough ago, 1937. Yeah, so the amount of weight that a lot of these ships had, you know our engineering skills at that time and our technology has grown Extra-minority. Yeah, you know our engineering skills at that time.

Speaker 4:

And our technology has grown Extraordinary.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's amazing to see what the size of a ship back then is totally dwarf fighting any of the ships going on now. And then the ship that hit it was really kind of a middle class ship. There are some that are way bigger than that as well. So the unfortunate fact that it hit the pillar and again it's a suspension bridge, so I mean it's supporting itself, so once it starts to go down, there's really nothing anchoring it in. Yeah, but I think that I mean this is kind of a wake-up call. I think that there's going to need to be a lot of overhaul on a lot of bridges across the country really, but it's always a huge expense.

Speaker 3:

Usually they, usually they don't want to spend the money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And they wait until disrepair before they do anything. And you got to ask yourself why? Because that bridge, that pathway, it's supposed to be. I think it's the ninth largest or most frequently used port and they use it, you know, going everywhere. So they were using that to go down to the Panama Canal, going over to the Pacific side. So just think about, like why would VOV? It's just that's the way this type of commerce that we're not really all familiar with operates right, and so exporting all kinds of goods, probably normal stuff and you know legal stuff and not legal stuff number one for cars, season two of the wire right there yeah.

Speaker 3:

so it's tremendous and it brings us to how key that bridge made for commercial traffic, because at that time, in 77, they weren't able to withstand the commercial traffic and the regular traffic going through the tunnels. So they created that bridge, but that was still the waterway, right? So you think of there are two things going on a bridge made to carry trucks and whatnot over, but then underneath that bridge is to bring those boats to deliver all that yeah export, import stuff all over.

Speaker 1:

So Amazon warehouse, amazon they got plenty of space to bring the boats in now, but we were estimating how much the how much time it was gonna take for the bridge to get rebuilt. Um, are any guesses?

Speaker 6:

I mean I found out the last time this happened, I think in. I think it's so far recent the bridge went down. Last time the bridge went no, not this bridge, but it happened in the us a bridge went down like thisa suspension bridge. It took them six years, yeah suspension bridges are like a hard feat yeah you're basically.

Speaker 2:

I mean you're, you're. It's a step-by-step process. You're building each pillar, sort of underground, and then creating the chambers, getting the water out of there and then building up from there.

Speaker 3:

And this is a long bridge. I think sometimes we forget that this is unusually long yeah get that this is unusually long, yeah, but.

Speaker 5:

But but there was, they said they had, they had a, they tested or they, yeah, they ran tests on the bridge last year, just recently last year, and it passed all the tests.

Speaker 2:

So the thing that then I think that comes down to is like we gotta adjust our testing numbers because, like, if the boats and the sizes you know, bigger boats weigh more, bigger boats can carry more cargo. That makes more weight. So if, like, if the numbers that you're you know, testing it as are as outdated as the numbers from when it was built, then it's like all right, it could survive a hit from a ship that weighs X amount, but almost very few ships weigh that anymore.

Speaker 5:

So this is another scenario they got to test for they got to exactly.

Speaker 1:

So you're saying that basically, the boats have surpassed the bridges in technology or advancement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, basically, I mean I think that the amount of you know, ability of engineering and just the way that you know we're able to have bigger ships carry more cargo. That means more weight, more momentum. A ship that hits it of this size is even kind of in the middle class, in the middle tier. There are some ships that are way bigger and can carry way more.

Speaker 3:

This is one of those very bizarre situations when they say can someone anticipate this or that? Yeah, remember the lights went out, like they lost power for one second.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and the power came back on. Then they threw the anchor out, supposedly to slow it down, which is kind of interesting also from the perspective of that. When we hear these news, this, these news stories, we always get all kinds of crazy stories right. So of course it had something politically. So they named every candidate. Has something to do with it, then it's a terrorist attack conspiracy theorists?

Speaker 5:

of course yes, came out the woodworks.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just came and told all kinds of craziness, even to tell us that seven cars were under. That was like the first story I heard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I heard that it was 12 cars that were on it.

Speaker 3:

See this, I, that's what I mean. And then there's no cars. It's working on the bridge, because the actual boat people, the Singaporeans, they put out a mayday, what do you call it? They were responsible. Put out the mayday told everyone to get off the bridge Ahead of time.

Speaker 2:

Threw the anchor out. They blocked off the bridge. No cars were on it.

Speaker 3:

They did everything possible to provide the safety within their realm of their ability, but instead you get, you know, both the panic and the crazy stories and all this nonsense until we actually hear what happened what a time to be alive and the crazy thing too is, in the aftermath, seeing all these, you know, these racists come out of the woodwork.

Speaker 2:

You know, because baltimore is a predominantly af-American city, it has, you know, a male, you know, african-american mayor, young mayor, and he's young. And then, you know again, it's like he got so much flack for the type of jacket that he wore at the press conference. And it's like yo, this is an emergency situation. He probably grabbed whatever was closest to him on the rack as he ran out the door to go start handling stuff. It's like, would you have preferred him to like take the time to like go get in a three-piece suit Then?

Speaker 3:

they'd be complaining about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they'd be complaining about oh he didn't respond for 30 minutes because blah, blah, blah he's doing this Exactly.

Speaker 3:

It's just so ridiculous. I mean, this goes to show like where we're at. We've veered, off course, from back in the day when most people could trust to a certain extent what they heard from one newscast or one news station, and instead you hear a million different people news people being just as bad as the common conspiracy theorists, talking nonsense about things they don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well speaking of response, and even what a time to be alive. Um, we had, uh, a new update in the top rapper, I guess I don't want to say battle.

Speaker 6:

What is that battle?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I don't know if it's a battle, if it's a beef, I don't know what to call it. But yeah, we have the big three, we have Kendrick Lamar, we have J Cole and we have Drake, not in any particular order. Did I say that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I say that because Kendrick Lamar dropped his well his disc on a Future song which Drake did an album called what a Time to Be Alive with Future. So I have a few thoughts on this where I'm like OK, bro, you decided to diss Drake on the person's song that he has an album with, so does that mean the person whose song he's on has a problem with Drake also?

Speaker 2:

Well, I have seen and again, I don't know how real or substantiated this is, but I've seen screenshots circulating online that have shown that a number of other rappers some of them are including future have unfollowed drake on social media, on instagram so again.

Speaker 2:

Supposedly I've heard it's over a girl situation and that's the the root cause again. I don't know how much it is like a personal thing, how much it is just like a business thing. How much it is just like a business thing, how much it is just like a contending with the top three situation. You know, if one is over the other, that cancel culture.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5:

So for me, the only big, first things first, great, great segue, the way you leaned into it with the what a time to be alive, thank you Exceptional.

Speaker 1:

Y'all gave me a couple and y'all just kept talking and I was just like, saving the one-liners I'm gonna grab one from.

Speaker 3:

Somewhere.

Speaker 5:

You know what I'm gonna take both of them. Yeah, skill. Secondly, um, the only big three that I know is the father, the son, the holy ghost, oh man oh man wow, it's easter. However, there you go, hey cheers. However, though, um, when it comes to this, whatever it is, I feel like it's a publicity stunt for real. There's an album coming somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely no absolutely.

Speaker 5:

It's good for business and it should be.

Speaker 1:

I think J Cole's album's coming. I think J Cole is in album mode, which makes it very interesting to diss J Cole in album mode. I mean, do we have a clip or anything?

Speaker 5:

Do we want to run?

Speaker 1:

something Engineer? No, I mean. I'm just asking if we do, If we don't. I can kind of paraphrase oh oh, oh wow, it's coming, it's coming.

Speaker 5:

Can we fast forward to Kendrick's part? It's a vibe, though. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1:

I part. It's a vibe, though I'm not gonna lie. I mean it's a future song. Yeah, we only got 30 seconds bro.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we only got 30 seconds Fair use and we do not own the rights to these records, by the way. Yeah, fair use.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and we do not own the rights to these records. Yeah, fair use. Yeah, we, we do not own the rights to these records, so we are not playing this for promotional use, and I mean and we kind of got to talk over it a little- bit I, I. I don't know this song, so I'm just trying to find yeah, you were talking about how you it's all good, it's all good.

Speaker 2:

I don't like it the one thing that I'll say on that is like the way that Kendrick wrote this disc. He's not going out and really naming names in the same way that, like you know, like other disc tracks, like obviously like Tupac, you know, you know it's like a very subliminal thing and a lot of the bars that he's talking about. You really have to get the references you call that subliminal I mean it really wasn't subliminal.

Speaker 5:

There's nothing subliminal about it, no, no, I'm saying in comparison to the usual diss track and you have to be familiar with the rapper's discography to know exactly, to get what he's talking about.

Speaker 2:

For Eric, if you're not listening to J Cole's discography to know exactly like to get what he's talking about for eric, if you're not listening to jay cole's discography and you don't know some of his his records and some of his lines, and same for drake you're not going to understand what is a derogatory or an inflicting, because he's taking a lot of what kendrick is doing is taking their words from their records or their song titles and then flipping it in a bar. So then it's like him on top and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

It's not crafty, very crafty, but that's what I'm saying. There's nothing subliminal about that when you when you take, if you know when you say when he literally said first person shooter, which is a song that drake and j cole are both right right, right. J cole has a line that says, um, we're the big three, yeah. And kendrick says forget the big three, it's just big me, yeah. Um, you gotta know he's talking to jay cole but then hold on, but then I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:

I'm sorry, your mic is off, sir it's okay, y'all can hear me.

Speaker 6:

Y'all can play the track. Can Can I play the track? Yeah, play the track, yeah.

Speaker 5:

All right.

Speaker 4:

These niggas talking out of their necks. Don't put no coughing out of your mouth. I'm way too paranoid for threats. Hey, hey, let's get it bro. Dot the money power, respect the last one is better Say yes, a lot of goofies with a check, I mean, oh, I hold them. Sentiments symbolic there you go, there you go there, you go.

Speaker 1:

No, subliminal Fuck sneak dissonance.

Speaker 4:

I can keep going.

Speaker 2:

No, I say subliminal in the sense that we're not talking about the Biggie Tupac just where, like, he's got a person in there dressed as Tupac in the music video and he's naming Biggie. I'm saying it's not subliminal, if you, but for a listener who doesn't understand the references that he's going on the history behind you know like, but you know then it's like for an act, for a no, for a novice listener.

Speaker 1:

You're not going to get it all right, let's get into the quick history real quick. So when I believe, when the world was first introduced to kendrick the world being introduced I'm not saying when he first got on, or nothing like that the world being introduced to kendrick was, I want to say, it was 2011. On drake's album yeah I'll take care.

Speaker 1:

It was the buried alive interlude and even from the buried alive interview, kendrick said a little something in there, where he said something of when he found out how old drake was. It made him a little bit annoyed and impatient. Why and I think that is because he is wondering why somebody had that success at that age while not being as quote unquote good as he is, quote-unquote good as he is because, kendrick's first project that I listened to is called section 80 and to me, honestly, other than probably good kid, bad city, that's his best.

Speaker 1:

I I believe that's his best body of work, lyrically, sonically, everything put together. Not trying to knock the other thing debatable, but yeah, very debatable, um, but together. Not trying to knock the other things Debatable, but, yeah, very debatable. But I'm not trying to knock the other things, I just think the other things were a little bit harder to listen to because he was doing a lot more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

As somebody who likes lyrics and loves lyricists, good Kid, mad City and Section 80 are his two most I don't want to say palatable, but easier to listen to because you can actually hear the lyrics in them. But we still have the situation of from back in that song. When he was introduced to Drake, it seemed like he was already annoyed with Drake's success to a certain extent. Now you fast forward, they have to do the friend thing because we're the top rappers coming up, they get on songs together, you know, whatever, whatever. Then years later the control verse comes out and Kendrick basically is trying to compete with the rest of his so-called friends I don't know if they're friends at this point, more like peers, Peers. There we go he's trying to compete with his peers.

Speaker 1:

He sparks a little bit of intrigue with some people, where it seemed like everybody and their mom decided to take that verse, that beat and spit back to him. He didn't answer anyone, but he didn't need to. He sent the first shot right. Honestly, the control verse. I don't know if it's that good. I don't really remember any lines from it. Um, I don't have any quotables from it. It's been a minute too. The only thing that is most important about that song is that he just flat out said all these people's different names. He flat out said their names. Once again, no, subliminal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, drake has always been saying that he is the top rapper because of his sales and his longevity and all the things that he's been able to succeed at through his career. Because if you look at the three of them, kendrick is probably the most creative, like the most artistical one of the three. Drake is the more successful one, sales-wise, money-wise, commercial-wise, and J Cole is the more just essence of hip hop. I'm a lyrical miracle. You know what I'm saying, guy, and that's how I'm going to get on. A miracle no, you know, it's lyrical miracle, spiritual. You know what I'm saying. That's how you brush it down. So I believe that that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

So at this point, kendrick, is now what I'm hoping. What I'm hoping, because I don't know if it is a real beef or not, but what I'm hoping is this is all for entertainment, this is all for competition, this is all for sport. You said J Cole stuck the olive branch out there saying, hey, I understand, you and Drake have a problem. So I'm on this Drake song and I'm going to stick the olive branch out by saying, hey, we're the big three me, you and Drake have a problem. So I'm on this Drake song and I'm going to stick the eyelash branch out by saying, hey, we're the big three Me, you and Drake.

Speaker 5:

He was calling for peace ahead of time he was calling for peace ahead of time.

Speaker 1:

Drake never once said Kendrick's name on that song. He always said who's the best? It's just me and Cole, Because Drake always sneak dissing, that's that's. That's what he's known for, that's what I'm saying. So Drake, flat out, he's set his line in the sand where he's like bro, the best is me and you. I'm not rocking with dude over there, Even though you saying it's the three of us. I'm saying it's just me and you Speak for yourself, bro.

Speaker 1:

So Kendrick fires back by saying, hey, first person shooter, that's the song that both of you were on. No big three, it's just big me, just me, by the way, yeah, so that's a shot At both of you. For you saying that there is a big three, and Jill Cole can get it too, and yeah, and for you even.

Speaker 2:

For you To be on the track and entertain yeah.

Speaker 1:

Omitting me, even though my man said that shit is funny man. You know what I'm saying. My man said that I am in the big three, so forget it. There is no big three, it's just big me. Drake's album is called For All my Dogs and he goes I'm sorry, I'm sorry, let me finish this real quick. Drake's album is called For All my Dogs and he says for all your dogs getting buried. That's a K, with all these nines, that's a pet cemetery.

Speaker 1:

That was a hard line, though that's a little bit of a tough line. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Ego says he don't like the whole verse.

Speaker 5:

He better listen to it. I think he better listen to it.

Speaker 6:

Don't tell me what I felt. I never said what you felt. I'm not saying I'm not a fan of what he said. It just didn't make sense for the beat compared to the beef, so that's what it was.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like to get that line, because that is a tough line, but to get it you have to know the song title. That is an integral part to why that line is so tough. If you don't understand that that's a line that he's taking and from an, from the artist that he's pointing a shot at and twisting it, then it's like yeah, you're right, it's not going to make sense to you, so it's it's. This is a diss, really for listeners of these three artists who will really get it, like other people can get it, and they can. You know there's lots of tiktok videos breaking down each bar and the relevance with each thing and the the double and triple entendres, but really, again, this is like drake, cole and kendrick and their fans and the different communities that are fans of all three artists and this debate this is that?

Speaker 1:

that's what this verse is for yeah, and that's why I'm like I said, that's why I'm hoping that this is just for entertainment purposes and there's no real beef between these three gentlemen yeah, I mean since childish, though, given given this is probably other than probably other than 50 and kanye, because 50 I don't think was going to do anything to kanye, even though at the time he was deemed the most dangerous person. But this is probably the safest rat beef you're going to get in, because you don't never hear of a history of violence from none of these gentlemen, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So for me, I'm thinking that this is great, especially not Drake. Yeah, I mean any one of them, any one of them. So I'm thinking that this is great, because this is going to be great for hip-hop if all three of these men actually engage one of them. So I'm thinking that this is great because this is going to be great for hip-hop if all three of these men actually engage. I think that it's been a few days and I'm surprised j cole hasn't responded well, they're on tour, right I know drake is on tour, so I

Speaker 5:

can understand drake not responding and no, but he said, he said he kind of addressed it a little bit, yeah, no addressing.

Speaker 1:

It is one thing.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking about responding responding with a verse he don't want no smoke man.

Speaker 1:

So drake is on album. I mean, drake is on uh uh tour mode, but I think j cole is on album mode yeah, he's at home sitting with his pen, sitting near the studio, and he hasn't responded, and that is strange to me, says a lot well, well, again, it's like he's the one who is trying to avoid this, to mediate I think he's playing the olive branch.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, but even he said it in the benny the butcher song, I'm trying to revolve a sport, I'm trying to revive a sport that's currently dying yeah and the only way to do that is through competition yeah, so I'll also say sorry not to cut you off.

Speaker 5:

I also say this right it, all of this is new, like it's just fresh right yeah usually sometimes rap beefs. Sometimes it takes a little while for a response to be given, depending on who the artist is or depending on what time they feel like they need to respond.

Speaker 1:

So back we'll see j cole has been on too much of a tear lately doing crazy features, killing everybody on features to have somebody shoot at him and him not respond within 48 hours.

Speaker 1:

Beef mode is a whole nother situation. That's not beef mode, it's just the idea that I'm in album mode so I'm going to. The only pass I'm willing to give is I'm in album mode so I might be in a vibe. I might be in more creative mode to where I I'm in album mode, so I might be in a vibe. I might be in more creative mode to where I'm not in battle mode exactly. But the idea is my pen should probably be one of the sharpest it is at this point. Yeah, so the fact that you know I've been sharpening my pen, I've been sharpening my sword and you want to shoot at me.

Speaker 5:

You know what I'm saying Trying to stay focused on what he's on to.

Speaker 1:

And that's why I think that that's the only pass I'm willing to give him. So, with that being said, he has to say something on this album. We'll give him time, let's see how he does it. As I said, he has to say something on this album If he's not going to say something in a Lucy prior he has to say something on this album.

Speaker 2:

But my hope is that you're right, that this is not something that is based on like I've heard rumors about it being based about a girl or something like that, but you know, I hope it's not anything personal and that this is a way for competition, because, you're right, that's going to be great for us fans. We're going to hear them at their best, as they're going at each other, and if there's not any personal malevolence or anger involved, then it's not going to hinder any of their careers and get too far. So I think that hopefully we'll see something like that. I just hope. And with that said, the things that we have seen other than the Kendrickverse, like screenshots of so-and-so, unfollowing, so-and-so that's probably the easiest way to create or manifest a beef scenario where, again, it's like you can unfollow someone and then just follow them back the next day, but then you've given people enough information to think that you have a problem with them without actually doing anything or saying anything, or we're in 2024.

Speaker 1:

You unfollow somebody on social media. That's that's it's real.

Speaker 2:

That's people read into. That, that's real crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's why people, that's why it's a story, because at any other time no one would care who, who would even know that he followed them or not.

Speaker 5:

But they've gone in to research who they took the time out to actually exactly well, who?

Speaker 1:

has and who has not followed, or who who used to and who doesn't. Yeah, it was intentional. It was an intentional thing is.

Speaker 2:

It's not like drake is posting out so-and-so unfollowed me His fans are looking at. All right, I'm going to screenshot every day who his followers are or who he's.

Speaker 5:

You know the fans got time.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, or who Future is following, and then the next day I'm going to do the same thing. And if Champagne Poppy is there, one and then he's not there the next day.

Speaker 1:

It's a problem I've done my Carmen Sandiego detective work. But even to do the Carmen Sandiego to figure out who was there first, to know who wasn't there the next, is to me insane.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, People got too much time on their hands. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

What else are you going to listen to? Watch CNN and listen to Donald Trump? No, exactly. Speaking of this, let's talk about some other hip hop.

Speaker 1:

I was about to say yeah, even with that. Even with that, watch me kill another segue hey, from J Cole and Drake, two people who have already had a situation with this gentleman. He is now in the news again and we are speaking of no other than Another one, take that, take that, take that, sorry. Bad boy baby. Pardon me, p Diddy.

Speaker 5:

False.

Speaker 1:

Did he do it? Did he? I mean, we're gonna find out. Time will tell the Homeland Security.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Has raided Sheesh. Two or three homes Of Sean P Diddy Puff, daddy, love, aka love, love, the club. I don't know. Take that, take that Three homes of Sean P Diddy Puff, daddy, love, aka Love, love, the club, I don't know.

Speaker 5:

Take that Love the club.

Speaker 2:

Love in the club.

Speaker 5:

That's a DC reference. I'm sorry, they're 1050 OT Street.

Speaker 1:

That's a DC reference, I'm sorry, I mean.

Speaker 4:

I don't know, I'm not even going to say that Don't do that.

Speaker 1:

He actually was at love. You do not do that right now. You do not. I'm going to talk over you because we are not going to associate that. Stop it. We are not going to associate that with that great university. It is, but he did go there.

Speaker 6:

We are not Stop it.

Speaker 5:

Stop it. He went through the school. The school didn't go through him. Wow, wow, I didn't go through him.

Speaker 6:

Wow, wow, I didn't go that far, I'll just say that is a

Speaker 1:

wild entendre.

Speaker 2:

Wild. I'll just say that him the Biggie concerts at Howard Homecoming back in the day amazing. I mean, I was a kid then, but watching the footage of them amazing. I was really about to ask. I was like you were there?

Speaker 1:

No amazing, I was really about to ask.

Speaker 2:

I was like you were there. No man, no.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no, no. I was still on the porch at that time. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying that from a historical standpoint, the love and putting DC on and the aspect of getting one of the biggest rappers at that time period to do performances at HU was amazing.

Speaker 5:

But, again here we are, 2024, things have changed.

Speaker 6:

Yes, 2024, things have changed, things have come to light, so what is he getting called out for?

Speaker 1:

He's apparently being called out for a number of different things. I'm not sure of all of them, but I do know that human or sex trafficking, yeah, is one or at least two of them. I got some stats, so keep going.

Speaker 5:

You got stats where did that come from?

Speaker 1:

you know how many bitches it was. I mean, excuse me damn.

Speaker 6:

I'm sorry. Human trafficking stats.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, star lunch, star lunch, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I'm on TV talking like it's just you and me. Listen, okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, I will say that, the craziest thing that I because I and that's a- Cassie song, wasn't it?

Speaker 5:

No, that's a Kanye song. No, it's you and me. Uh, I've been waiting, that is a Cassie song.

Speaker 1:

Wow, you on the road today, damn Wow, I'm doing this and I don't even know I'm doing it.

Speaker 2:

You got the Kendrick pen right now you on the road today.

Speaker 1:

Whoa sorry, woo, I'm hot.

Speaker 2:

I will say that the craziest allegation in my opinion from all this because again there's multiple sexual assault, sexual abuse, sexual trafficking, human trafficking, situations and allegations that are being made but the craziest one is at least. I mean they're all horrible, but the most outlandish one, at least in my opinion, is the potential that he blew up Kid Cudi's car over a beef. I mean, apparently he's jealous. Kid Cudi was potentially romantically involved.

Speaker 1:

P Diddy, is Frank Lucas out here? He's going on record saying I'm going to blow up his car making threats and then his car actually explodes.

Speaker 2:

Kid Cudi's car actually explodes Coincidence yeah?

Speaker 3:

right, he warned that man.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and he did it. Things can make you go Allegedly, allegedly.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean the car did blow up that part.

Speaker 5:

That's not alleged.

Speaker 1:

Like the car is. What's alleged is that he did it. He was the one that did it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yes, that's what's alleged, but again it's like, okay, like you have a documented beef with this person, you go on record making a threat about the very exact same thing that happened. And it's like and as, like we're in 2024, cars don't just spontaneously combust, like we've got the engineering pretty much down, even the new, you know, electric cyber truck, all the issues that's happening. You know there's no batteries exploding, you know like hey, hey, trying to say he's not innocent.

Speaker 5:

So are you trying to?

Speaker 1:

say, right now On air, on air. Uh, oh, did you do it? It I'm just playing. I'm just saying, nah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say something crazy. Like are you trying to say on air right now that Donald Trump did not incite the January? 6th insurrection are you?

Speaker 2:

that's totally no, he definitely did that shit, oh so.

Speaker 1:

So if he did it, that's not alleged, that is facts. If the glove fits, I mean. Look, I am sitting back, glued to my seat, waiting for all the facts and allegations To come out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want to see the receipts.

Speaker 1:

I want to see what is happening, because just some of the stuff that I've read right now has been crazy, like young girl, young miami oh lord, that's apparently an employee of sex worker down to the point that 50 cents baby mom was allegedly a. She was on the payroll too. On the payroll. So there is. There's just so much levels of this onion.

Speaker 1:

It's like an onion yeah, yeah, we need to peel back, and I think a lot of it is going to make us cry. Well, not make us cry, but make certain people cry.

Speaker 2:

The crazy thing too is like you look at it from that aspect and the trafficking standpoint by Homeland Security. And that his kids were detained and handcuffed means like okay, there is enough evidence to be presented right now to a judge to approve this. So that must mean like okay, they already have receipts, it's just that we're not aware of them, they're not in the public sphere, and then they're going in for more receipts, more evidence.

Speaker 1:

The quote is when the feds shoot, they don't miss. Yeah, so if the feds are willing to shoot, yeah, and this was very specific, they have.

Speaker 5:

This was home enough. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That means they have enough evidence to to do whatever they're they need to do. So it's a really bad situation and, honestly, I'm waiting for the video.

Speaker 5:

My question is where's dude? Though? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I'm waiting for the video of russell simmons to post him and puff. Talk about some. I'm in bali.

Speaker 2:

We're chilling well, he, he, I think he he's his lawyer made a made a statement he didn't say, but he basically said you know.

Speaker 5:

Of course he's not going to say where he's at.

Speaker 1:

You can't say that's my client. I don't have to say where he's at.

Speaker 5:

That client privilege, so they claimed they said that was where his plane touched down as far as the tracker went. But then another news came out. They said they turned off the tracker, so it's a lot of things that have been spewed out.

Speaker 1:

They threw the tracker out the window. That's what they did there, you go and he's in Bali with Russell Simmons, that ain't got no tradition. That's not a safe place. Hey Russell has been there forever, man.

Speaker 5:

And Russell. I think Russell Simmons ain't dead. Let me not start anything.

Speaker 1:

Russell wakes up every day and lets us know exactly where he's at. So you can't touch him Currently. Oh yeah, so you can't touch him. He tells you all the time I'm in Bali. That's impressive.

Speaker 6:

Right. Well, so there's some numbers about the top 25 cities of human trafficking cases.

Speaker 1:

And all of them are going to have a major port.

Speaker 6:

So guess where DC is A top 25.

Speaker 5:

Number 15.

Speaker 3:

Four Okay God damn Yep.

Speaker 1:

Now I believe it.

Speaker 2:

No, is that through Baltimore? Baltimore is 14. 14? So they bringing people into the wharf? No, is that through Baltimore, baltimore's?

Speaker 1:

got to be 14. Oh, I thought that 14? So they bringing people?

Speaker 6:

into the wharf.

Speaker 1:

I honestly would have thought it would have been flipped.

Speaker 5:

No, but that's Virginia, though you know Virginia got water too, so they could be coming. No, Virginia's not even on the list.

Speaker 2:

I guess the DC Harbor, I guess, so like of course Houston Tech is number one, so could they?

Speaker 3:

Houston Texas is number one. Port Arthur, Houston Texas. You're talking about the religious. No, they're probably talking about Port.

Speaker 1:

Arthur.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Not Port Arthur. You guys, you guys. I want to say this Los Angeles is number two.

Speaker 6:

Could there?

Speaker 5:

have been some people on that ship that hit the bridge Possibly.

Speaker 3:

People in the container.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean again like the season two of the Wire, again was just kind of a lot of the Wire takes inspiration from past events. The season two centers on dock workers Right and the inciting incident which leads to an investigation is that a container is found on a shipping field with a bunch of dead women in it who are in that container to be sort of trafficked, and that the air filtration system got knocked out and then they suffocated, got crushed so they uncover, yeah, a ring of you know, uh, people bringing in people and that's part of you know the, the drug kingpin at the time, the, the empire that they have going we call that, when art imitates life and then vice versa.

Speaker 2:

Here we go exactly. So I get I don't know what. There's no evidence, of course, to prove it, but I mean theoretically yeah. I mean it's possible that I spontaneously combust right now. You know, I don't know P Diddy's involved damn did he do it?

Speaker 1:

like I said, we gonna find out but we'll find out we will find out on another episode. Thanks for joining us guys. We will do better next time. Take care. Peace Cheers.