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Rap's AI Infusion and the Thrill of UFC Matchups Analyzed

eGogh, Ace Boogie, Marc 2Ray, A-Train and Swank Season 1 Episode 8

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Join us as we decode Drake's latest track with special guest Tiffany, delving into its AI-inspired undertones and rap rivalries. From Rick Ross's clapbacks to the fusion of technology and tradition, we break down this intriguing moment of hip-hop history. 

Then, buckle up for the UFC recap, as we dissect fight night highlights and reflect on the outcomes. With Tiffany's insights and our signature banter, we explore the human stories behind the stats, from weigh-ins to fighter resilience. Plus, stay tuned for expert analysis to up your combat sports IQ. Don't miss out on this jam-packed episode!


Speaker 1:

Welcome everybody to another episode of the Absolute DMV Podcast. It's your man, ace Boogie. I'm here with a few good guys. I'm here with my man, mark. Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 2:

everybody.

Speaker 1:

My man A-Train, hey, hey, hey, my man Swank, what up and Ego on the boards. You know, man, we are here joined today with a special guest. We have our homegirl, tiffany in the house. Tiffany, how you doing.

Speaker 3:

Hello, hello, I'm doing well. How about you guys?

Speaker 1:

Oh, we are doing excellent. The weather's been good today. I mean, everybody look good. I don't hear no sniffles. Allergies ain't kicking nobody ass.

Speaker 4:

Oh, it's there, we're just masking it.

Speaker 1:

All right, good, I like it that way. You know what I'm saying. Take your Claritin, your Zyrtec all that stuff.

Speaker 4:

You know we can't sneeze the wrong way, no more oh no bro, we are professionals. Military time.

Speaker 1:

Military time right profession now. But let's jump straight into it because you know I'm saying I'm gonna make this a quick cook because I was trying to cook last podcast and the guys was getting on me, so I'm gonna make this a quick cook.

Speaker 5:

You know what I'm saying? Hibachi, out here you know short order cook.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5:

I'm gonna do my food truck thing, it's still gonna be good, though I'm playing with y'all, though I'm playing with y'all not for real.

Speaker 1:

All right, we have a response, or do we have a response? Drizzy dropped a bomb. All right, I'm sorry. I don't know if he dropped a bomb, because I don't think it was that tough. I honestly think it was a jab. If. Because I'm saying if? Because there are reports that this drake response is actually ai. So, um, I'm a little bit concerned. I listened to it a couple of times and it did kind of sound like ai actually some parts, some parts.

Speaker 1:

And then I was just like whoever this is, really, really, really and it did kind of sound like AI actually Some parts, some parts. And then I was just like whoever this is really, really, really understands Drake's flow? Yeah, because he had the cadence down, he had a lot of stuff down, but there were some things in there that just wasn't typical A bit off. Yeah, you know, it wasn't typical Drake and at least typical Drake production either Drake and at least typical Drake production either.

Speaker 2:

well, I gotta say I think the fact that it was uh, the way that it was delivered was like really cool, because I think that's what got Drake the win really in his uh beef with Meek Mills was that he produced a diss track that was like a club banger, like it was a popular record, it had a catchy hook to it and it didn't really have too many like amazing, like jab bars on it.

Speaker 4:

It wasn't just that Meek Mill was whack.

Speaker 1:

No, Well yeah, wow, oof, wow, that's what you feel.

Speaker 4:

It was a question I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Well, I will say Meek Mill did start it, and then Drake responded, and then there was a solid time period.

Speaker 1:

We know what happened there, though we know what happened there.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, this record has the potential to be another pop sort of vibe club banger which, right there, will take, I think, a lot of the winning, because everyone who's going to be dancing to it at the club is going to be incognito sort of dissing Kendrick by just banging to it and rocking with it.

Speaker 4:

What's his name? Um, dj academics played like a finished version, kind of like a clean up version of it, and it sounded like you know something.

Speaker 1:

You're actually banging the club too, so yeah, I mean they said that a couple people said that the record was sent, I guess, actually by drake right right, so it could be, but either way, the the response actually did enough that it got one person to come out the hole.

Speaker 2:

Rick Ross responded.

Speaker 1:

Rick Ross responded. And it's weird because you don't really think about Rick Ross like the battle rapper, the lyrical rapper. You think of him more for like luxury raps. I'm riding in my car on a nice day. You know, I'm feeling good, I just got a haircut type, you know music I might be going to the club type you know type thing. You know, I just got paid right.

Speaker 4:

Friday night, riding in the back of my car, smoking a cigar type stuff, drinking champagne.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean damn that's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but yeah the maybach music the aston martin right right but rick ross's reply though, I don't.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't all that. I mean it did what it was supposed to do, but it wasn't all that, because I don't know how true half of it was. I mean, I get it, drake wanted to hang out with real realsters and stuff like that, so when he first met you he was very excited to be around you. But I think that you have also benefited from knowing that gentleman also.

Speaker 4:

Scratched his back as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's like it's one of them things where I'm just like it's very interesting for you to say that about Drake, because you have benefited so much from Drake, from his record, from him being on your records, from you being on his records, just whatever.

Speaker 2:

Well, the thing that really like nail in the head right there, nail in the coffin, is the fact that on Aston Martin music Drake has a feature but in the radio version drake's doesn't get his verse to be on the feature, he just has a little singing interlude, not even the chorus, just an interlude into the chorus. Just to have his name attached made that record popular on the top 40. They didn't even need to have the whole verse from him, they just needed a little snippet to say his name is on it. Yep, so just to have that co-sign. Because he's really big in the top 40 world, um, and and there was nothing really new that came out of that. I mean, I've looked at drake's. You know there's the talk about the potential nose job, but I've looked at like old photos of drake and this and that and I'm like I can't even.

Speaker 2:

There was a really good nose job where you can't even tell, which I guess is how you want it to be. But at that point, like what's the point? So I don't know, there wasn't anything that really made me like head turn. You know from that record.

Speaker 1:

I mean, to me I guess the funniest thing about it is Rick Ross trying to body shame somebody, and that's just probably the funniest thing. But other than that, hey, like I said, I like rap. I like when guys compete, I like when guys go at each other. So as long as this stays rap, it can keep going for me.

Speaker 4:

Oh, did you say the mansion comparison as well? They're comparing mansions.

Speaker 1:

I do not want to compare mansions. Not, I do not. I'm talking about any rapper. I don't think you want to compare mansions with drake.

Speaker 4:

I really don't think like they're friends for real, like you know. I mean like, especially where they're taking it out. So it's out of rap now. Now it's being petty like, oh, I'm talking about this, I'm talking about that, um, I, it's, it's gone.

Speaker 1:

It's gone outside of rap now the idea behind it is regardless of what with two people who like to talk about money or one person who really likes to talk about money, rick Ross. The easiest way to beat him is just to say y'all have more money than you and now it's like alright, cool, you know, factual evidence will show, I do have more money than you. Yeah, you can have as many wing stops as you want.

Speaker 2:

But Drake will be the biggest boss that you've seen thus far.

Speaker 1:

Thank you If he's got more money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, just by going by Rick Ross's own metrics.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's nice.

Speaker 1:

It's a nice and simple thing, okay, reference. I would definitely like to see when Kendrick replies, because actually there was a Kendrick reply, but that was actually confirmed as AI.

Speaker 4:

It was AI. What I'm waiting for is just so. The real beef for me is just between Drake and Kendrick Everybody else that's attaching themselves is just.

Speaker 1:

You know, they're just looking for that publicity as well. I want to see how the battle continues, battle.

Speaker 5:

I want to hear the response, not even just responses I want to hear the excuses of why certain people didn't pick better, ie the coaches. There we go. Okay, let's go. I want to hear. I want to hear these excuses now, because they're the the casuals of among us. They did some passing.

Speaker 1:

so you know I'm saying we're gonna let them slide and I ain't really gonna say too much. The casuals of Among Us. They did some passing, so you know what I'm saying we're going to let them slide and I ain't really going to say too much, Whatever the passing is.

Speaker 4:

That was the rule of the game.

Speaker 1:

It was the rule of the game.

Speaker 4:

I didn't pass too much. We played by the rules.

Speaker 1:

No, no, you're right. So I'm not mad at you, but at the same time I can say that there was some passing. So you know what I'm saying. There's, there's certain situations where it's like bowling when you bring the bumpers out on the side. You know, I'm saying your score. You might have had a good score and you bowled that.

Speaker 4:

But not at all.

Speaker 1:

We got to understand that there was bumpers there.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying in professional bowling there's no bumpers. And what we did?

Speaker 2:

we didn't have bumpers I might have had the bumpers, but I didn't have the little stand thing that you put the bowling ball in and it rolls down and that's cool and I will take that.

Speaker 1:

Bumpers is. You know, bumpers is cool. You're still learning the game, nah not at all, you're still learning the game. We're not trying to see you.

Speaker 5:

you know what I'm saying feel bad, shouldn't be playing the game at all and be depressed. You know what I'm saying. How about sitting there and cleaning my balls?

Speaker 1:

Wow, pause that. What?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we're going to pause that, but yeah, so let's run down the line real quick. So do you want to tell them what we're doing? So pretty much we made a pick last episode.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay. So last episode, what we did was everybody made a pick for the UFC fights, some people passed on certain fights, if you didn't know anything about it, so you were cool to pass.

Speaker 1:

UFC 300, one of the biggest cards that we've seen in a very long time, very exciting. If you followed my picks and parlayed them, you would have won a lot of money. But you know what I'm saying At least my wins. I mean, if you would have put all my picks together you would have definitely lost, but yeah, the wins would have got you something. I mean, I came up on a little something that night because I picked five of mine and came up on a couple hundred dollars, on a $10 bet, there you go.

Speaker 5:

So you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That's why you're the guy. We're doing that. We're going to do that. We're going gonna do that, we're gonna do that. So let's run through it, let's run to it, so we're gonna run through.

Speaker 5:

So we should run through quickly through the prelims. Nothing really important, just to find out who drank, who not, and then that's it. Let's keep it moving. Who won, who lost?

Speaker 1:

and then drink all right, so first fight. Davidson figured right. I always mess up his name, I'm sorry, sir. Dig is in figurado and cody garbrandt people thato. And Cody Garbrandt, people that pick. Cody Garbrandt, please take a drink.

Speaker 2:

A train.

Speaker 1:

That'll be A train, because, oh yeah, we're letting Tiff slide Even though. Tiff did make picks, but she didn't agree to the drinking, so we're not going to hold her to the drinking.

Speaker 2:

And she didn't know that you could take a pass. I appreciate consent.

Speaker 1:

We're all about consent here at absolute dmv all about consent. So right now, the only person that seems to need to take a drink would be a train. All right, a train. Do you have your drink, jesus? Don't do that again, please, please.

Speaker 4:

Oh my God, I actually liked it. Not into the microphone please.

Speaker 5:

Never again.

Speaker 1:

What is going?

Speaker 5:

on Super.

Speaker 1:

That was wild in my ears, wild and that might need to be paused, yeah. That might even need to be paused. Yeah, that was Just in case. Yeah, all right. Fight number two Fight number two.

Speaker 5:

We have Bobby Green versus Jim Miller, green versus jim miller. Uh, we had a lot of people go out on this. Yeah, I didn't know too much about the bobby green and jim miller. That's the only one I didn't want to be, so all right, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 6:

But he's just talking about picks with your rationale, right? None of these characters here, right you? You guys have rationales like why did you pick what?

Speaker 1:

oh, okay, okay, I mean, I think I said you picked I think I said it last podcast but Davidson Figueiredo, I said that he was the one that's been through more battles.

Speaker 4:

Say his name one more time.

Speaker 1:

Come on, man stop.

Speaker 6:

I'm trying to move on, Good exactly.

Speaker 1:

I said that he was going to be the one to be. He's been through more battles and I think that Cody Garbrand and if he gets touched he could possibly go down, but I honest this is the one fight I actually missed, so I didn't actually see how exactly it wasn't knocked out.

Speaker 3:

No, but I was saying logic out I know it doesn't blow my logic out, because I'm trying to see how did he get cody down.

Speaker 1:

So you don't know, did he? I'm asking you a question so you don't know. I'm asking you a question for the sake for the sake of the episode just drink.

Speaker 4:

Whoever got to drink, just drink. That's what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 5:

So this is what it is. So the prelims, we're not getting so serious into it, the only time we get serious about the one. So pretty much main cards. That's what we were talking about yeah.

Speaker 1:

A-Train's trying to get me right now and I have no problem with it. That's why.

Speaker 5:

I'm trying to make it clear. Bottoms up. That was only the first fight.

Speaker 1:

This is the one fight I didn't see, so I don't know if Davidson dropped him to put him down or how he got down. Bobby Green and Jim Miller yes, no one needs to take a drink because Tiff, like I said, Tiff, she picked Miller but she didn't opt into drinking.

Speaker 3:

So she doesn't need to take a drink. Shout out to Miller he did go to VTech, so he has a Hokies. Okay, okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 1:

Shout out, shout out to Jim Miller, but he got that ass. Whooped Okay, keep it going. Whooped okay, keep it, I did see that all right.

Speaker 2:

Marina rodriguez versus jessica yeah, um, anybody, I drank ego and mark. Oh yeah, that's what I get for listening to you. I forgot how scary andrade.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I, I saw her, I saw the height, I was like I forgot.

Speaker 5:

She's like a scary yeah, but it was a decision so it wasn't a knockout.

Speaker 2:

So she was tough, yeah, all right, and the stats looked good in her favor.

Speaker 1:

Jalen Turner versus Renato Moicano. I picked Jalen Turner. I will take a drink. Is this because he was black.

Speaker 5:

We match it back. Is that because he was black?

Speaker 1:

I picked him because he was black and I picked him because I thought that Renato I mean, I'm going to be flat out.

Speaker 5:

He wasn't black. No, no, I'm going to be flat out.

Speaker 1:

I thought Renato was going to stand with him, and well he did. And then he dropped him and took him down.

Speaker 5:

He got down the town.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then he took him down. So I mean not took him down, but he dropped him and finished him off.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so you drink, so I so you drink, so I took my drink.

Speaker 1:

You took your drink, all right, and A-Train got to take a drink also. He took his. I already did that, okay.

Speaker 6:

But anyway, you know what Cody was submitted, right, cody was submitted. Exactly, that's not what Davidson does. So with all this, oh, he would have dropped it. He would have said it.

Speaker 1:

He's Brazilian, whatever.

Speaker 6:

And so Davidson did something that's different than he's done before.

Speaker 5:

A-train yes, I want to make sure this is clear, right and so what he did is that he submitted him and that was special Okay. I get, this is your segment, but come on.

Speaker 6:

I'm done, okay, thank you. I want to make sure that some analysis.

Speaker 5:

No, we can always go back, because what's the point of this thing? Who won or?

Speaker 6:

who lost. It should be some analysis.

Speaker 5:

Okay, but how about we do this? We will go through them and then we can go back to the ones you want to talk about real quick. Okay, all right, thank you All right.

Speaker 6:

I'm sorry I mean, what's the point? What's the point of looking at a fight unless you analyze what happened or say something about what actually happened and how?

Speaker 1:

And that was like I said, that was the one fight I didn't see. So I just needed I know that he submitted him. I just needed to know how he got him in the position to submit him, because it was a rear naked choke. It wasn't like they came out standing and he just jumped on his back and choked him out. So you know what I'm saying. So let's move on. Diego Lopez versus Sadiq Youssef this one hurt because DMV made it.

Speaker 5:

We all had to drink. No, I don't have to drink, except Tiff.

Speaker 1:

Tiff would be the only one that didn't have to drink because she went against the DMV. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's about to get your DMV card revoked Traitor.

Speaker 3:

Look, sadiq man, it's about playing smart.

Speaker 1:

You're right.

Speaker 3:

Not playing with loyalty. That is a very DMV approach.

Speaker 1:

You're right, I ain't mad at you. So we all got to take a drink.

Speaker 5:

We all drank, I drank.

Speaker 1:

That I was playing smart All right, all right, come on, keep moving. Keep moving Kayla Harrison versus Holly Holm. I said it from jump. Kayla was not going to stand with Holly Holm.

Speaker 3:

Yes, no way.

Speaker 1:

I said it from jump.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, he said it.

Speaker 1:

He said it, yeah, so see, now hold on, don't see. You see he's doing it now.

Speaker 5:

No, hold on, don't see. You see he's doing it now. No, just ask your question.

Speaker 1:

You see he's doing it now. No Because, no, no, because when I asked, how I'm not going to say anything more.

Speaker 5:

Hold on.

Speaker 1:

Time out. I asked when I asked how Davidson got him down to choke him, and he said he's just focusing on the choke. Now I said that Kayla Harrison was going down and finished it, and now he's talking about some. What is the definition of a choke? What do you mean, bro? Don't do that. Don't do that Ego did you drink. Don't do that.

Speaker 5:

So, either way. I said Kayla Harrison and a bunch of other people got a drink. I'll drink again because y'all keep talking.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a bunch of other people got a drink. Keep going through it.

Speaker 4:

I drank already All y'all come on.

Speaker 1:

All y'all drink Al Jermaine Sterling versus Calvin Katar.

Speaker 4:

No, we missed Kayla Harrison. That's what I said, kayla.

Speaker 1:

Harrison. Yeah, kayla Harrison won. Yeah, she beat Holly Hong. That's what I said. A bunch of people got to drink.

Speaker 5:

There's only two people that drank.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I say a bunch of people, I'm talking about y.

Speaker 1:

Jermaine Sterling versus Calvin K Tarr.

Speaker 5:

So the only person that had to drink, it is me. Yeah, all right, there you go. You know why.

Speaker 4:

Because I went against Jermaine Just drink, just drink, man.

Speaker 5:

That's what you get for doing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That's what you get for going against the black guy. It's okay, mm-hmm, I'm all right going against the black guy, thank you, yeah. Alexander Rockets versus Jerry Bersetka once again yeah, I'm not drinking. I got a drink on this one second drink, but some people are yeah, I mean okay.

Speaker 5:

So after this one um a train, you can start talking a little bit more. Okay, he's, he's going to break it down. I know, let's break him down, all right. All right, so now we're at the main card.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 5:

Bo Nickel versus Cody Brundage. Everybody don't drink.

Speaker 1:

Nobody drinks on that, everybody pick.

Speaker 5:

Bo, everybody picks Bo.

Speaker 1:

And Bo said he had a bad fight, he wasn't satisfied with his Submission, with his performance in general, he doesn't care about the submission, isn't?

Speaker 5:

he a wrestler.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's a wrestler.

Speaker 5:

So that's what I'm saying, Like how are you not bad at what you do?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5:

So go ahead.

Speaker 6:

Adrian, no, no, we'll leave that till later in the discussion. Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

All right, moving on. Hold on, move it up. Sorry, Arman Serkan versus Charles Oliveira. I have to drink.

Speaker 5:

I have to drink too, because I really thought Oliveira was going to get that hey Trey Sanukian.

Speaker 1:

Sanukian. Sorry, that's the Armenian right.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, Armenian. Yeah, mark picked the Armenian yeah of course, and I was trying to sway him to the no, yeah, he was like nah, I'm going with blood.

Speaker 2:

Let's go with blood Resilient by marriage. I'm being my blood Alright.

Speaker 1:

Gaethje, I want to talk about this one.

Speaker 5:

Okay, alright, so I have to drink. A-train has to drink.

Speaker 1:

Everybody got to drink, except for me and the ones that opted out. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

Peace be unto you.

Speaker 1:

Yes, because Max Holloway did his thing.

Speaker 4:

All right Zwing.

Speaker 1:

Zang Wei Li versus Yang.

Speaker 5:

Zhongnan. Everybody voted for Zang.

Speaker 1:

Everybody voted for Zang.

Speaker 5:

Somebody said he had a strong face.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, he said that he wasn't going to pick because he didn't want to see women mess up their pretty face, and then turned around and said this woman had a strong face, so he's going to pick her.

Speaker 4:

Her face wasn't going to get messed up either the cheek muscles that's what really put it over the top? Strong cheek muscles.

Speaker 2:

That was my strategy, and it worked.

Speaker 4:

And on this last one, Alex.

Speaker 1:

Fiera versus Jamal Hill. Everybody know, Once again I'm going to be the only one drinking because I went with the black guy. That's what I get 50-50.

Speaker 4:

Hey look, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry Me and Issa Rae, we're voting. What's it called? We're cheering for everybody black. Or what do we say? We're rooting for everybody black? So, I'm sorry, Forgive me. I know Brazilians are technically black also, but I don't know if they consider themselves black like Dominicans. So hey, I'm going for the black guy.

Speaker 3:

All right.

Speaker 5:

Okay, so everybody depends on Everybody's a little saucy.

Speaker 2:

What type of Brazilian?

Speaker 1:

No, I'm dead serious. We all good All right.

Speaker 5:

So Dominicans don't consider themselves black and I'm going to apologize.

Speaker 4:

I'm not going to be rude. You have to repeat yourself.

Speaker 5:

I'm not going to try to be rude.

Speaker 1:

Okay, not all Dominicans, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:

If everybody hears this, it's not. Ego's not trying to be rude.

Speaker 1:

Ego's not.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, but I was. We can get through this. That was refreshing. I want to respect the segment. It is A-Train and Tiffany's segment. I want them to really break down. I just wanted to go through this picture real quick and then we can pretty much break down the fight. That's what it was.

Speaker 1:

Which fights would you guys like to break down?

Speaker 3:

Which one do you want to start with? Let me just shout out um holmes versus harrison for a second I think, the one thing that people forget because people are comparing harrison with ronda rousey.

Speaker 3:

But harrison is a two-time olympic gold judo medalist, which is crucial, and I actually watched the Instagram story of one of her coaches and they said that exact sequence where they she took her down, double take down to the rear choke the judo choke. They trained that sequence for two months, so just the level of strategy that they have to to executing. That's why it ended so quickly and I think you mentioned, like A-Train before, about Holly Holm and the clinch being like a big, big mistake.

Speaker 6:

Well, what I would say is that Kayla is clearly not Ronda Rousey, size-wise and everything else that when you prepare for a fight, right, there's something called a game plan. Every person understands that. You have to look at your opponent pluses, minuses, strengths, weaknesses and then that's how you prepare so quick question on that, real quick, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:

Do you think that she watched, uh, previous fights of holly holmes weaknesses and definitely played to that part, because they showed also, um Misha Tate. So Misha Tate did the same exact thing do you know, I, I, you could say yes.

Speaker 6:

I think everybody knows that Holly Holmes is not a grappler and basically her style is to uh, prevent grappling right, stop the shoot. You know, have, take down defense, all of that. If you look at her fight with Ronda Rousey, that's exactly what she did. She didn't want to be touched in any way, and understand that sometimes if it's a person who wants to do a double leg versus a jujitsu person who doesn't need a double leg, doesn't need to grab any part of you, they can take you down right, because they're going to sweep you, they're going to trip you. They're going to trip you, they're going to do something.

Speaker 6:

She did all these things at Ronda Rousey. She did none of those things at Kayla. So that's poor, either game planning or what happens sometimes when you're training someone, they do something completely different than what was in the training room, and so it was kind of shocking that, not that she lost, that. Her approach to the fight was I'm going to try to take you down, and you remember we watched the fight. Not only did she, she didn't reverse an attempt for Kayla taking her down, what she did is try to take Kayla down herself, which is like suicide.

Speaker 3:

Did you see the size of Kayla's back? It is massive.

Speaker 6:

I was just about to say this. Sorry, I gotta finish.

Speaker 3:

She is built for grappling. She's built different. This is an finish. She is built for grappling. She's built different this is an issue.

Speaker 5:

She's built different. And this is an issue. She came. Was this a debut?

Speaker 6:

fight. This is her first intro to UFC To.

Speaker 5:

UFC. So this is her debut fight for the UFC, right?

Speaker 3:

Yes, but she's been in PFL for like about four or five years.

Speaker 6:

PFL doesn't have the same comp A but B. What I'm going to say here that might be annoying is that she's now on, potentially on this list to find out how did she do it. So some people think there's a whole list of people who are quote, unquote weight cheats and we say that we mean that they're bigger and they're finding a way to shrink down the weight and wait.

Speaker 5:

Well, you hide, you get always. That's always been that, no.

Speaker 6:

No, there's certain people who do that. Well, conor McGregor was one of those so that when he actually starts fighting people over, he loses, right, or it becomes more equal, cody, not quite right. Um, john Jones, alex Fiera Gaethje is one of those as well. That's the reason why he's known by everybody as a person who walks around at 190 pounds and he shrinks himself down. So we know that Kayla has her history in judo is basically wrestling judo, playing at 170 some odd pounds. So some people wonder playing at 170 some odd pounds? So some people wonder. Now, kevin Aioli, who is a you know, a critic, right, a boxing, now UFC MMA writer, said he was shocked how big she looked post weigh-in. So the question is, is that that influence in any way? What happened? Now we know that. You know there are pluses and minuses to everything. Right, that her technique is there, but there are some people who clearly have that as an advantage and we always have to look at that.

Speaker 1:

But didn't she not have to cut weight in the PFL? So her having to cut weight now could actually be to her detriment.

Speaker 6:

Some people try to argue that, but you know what? Everyone is different. So there's some people who, when they cut weight like that, they're weak, and there are other people who, when they cut weight like that and then they balloon up. Ie Conor McGregor. Look at his fight with Aldo how he looked like he was from a concentration camp and then he blew up. And in that fight particularly, I would note that Jose Aldo punched him straight in the face and he just ate that punch and knocked out Jose Aldo. How does that happen? The same issue sometimes happens with boxing. You have some people who are huge. On fight night they're fighting at 145 pounds and then when they walk into the ring they're 165, 170 pounds. So you have to consider. That Doesn't take away to me Kayla's brilliance on the ground right and the stupidity of Holly Holmes in trying to fight her the way she did, but it's something that we'd have to pay attention when we're picking fights and you know we'll go to the next one.

Speaker 1:

I just knew that Kayla wasn't going to just want to sit there and strike Straight up. No, no, I mean no, no, no. She did for a little bit.

Speaker 5:

No, she's built different. Like there's people they know their game plan, they know their number one. Right, you train like, okay, I might strike with you, but guess what? I'm going to go with my bread and butter and I'm going to do what I do best. I mean. So the Ronda Rousey, ronda Rousey, ronda Rousey, ronda Rousey, ronda Rousey I'm thinking of fucking Wrestle WWE.

Speaker 5:

So that situation, it was the opposite. She literally is like I'm going to strike with a striker to prove to everybody I'm a striker. And then got fucked up Pretty much and that's what I'm talking about. Like she got caught up in the hype, like, oh, and you saw the pad work before the pre thing, right, sometimes people like you said, it's built different. They're like, regardless of what my what, they hype me up, I'm going to win this fight. And Harrison was like I'm going to win this fight because I know that she can't beat this. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about the Misha Tate, because Misha Tate is a grappler before she's a striker. And at the end of the day she knew, like, if I can't beat you in the stand, I'm going to take it down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have one question, though, about the weights, though you know, on getting in there for the ring, how much do you think of that? Could potentially be like strategic water weight. Oh, hell yeah Not drinking going into a sweat.

Speaker 3:

Lodge the day before you know exactly what a weight cut is. It's 100% a science, yeah.

Speaker 5:

So technically you can either old school back then it used to be you can. Actually, the day that you weigh in is the day that it actually shows your true weight. The UFC changed that. Now it's the day before. So they weigh technically. When they show their weigh-ins it's not their true weigh-ins. They literally are weighed in before, before they actually get on the scale. So there's a science to it. You weigh in, there's electric lights, there's all kinds of other stuff. They got to get tested Because a lot of times people can cheat, they can cheat.

Speaker 2:

So you're saying there's two different ones, there's like the day before and then that day after, and they compare the weights. I think the day.

Speaker 5:

So technically what I found out? That like when they do the weigh-ins it's not the day of the weigh-ins. It's the day before. It's the day before. Yeah, and then.

Speaker 6:

Sometimes it's shocking when you find out, and so particularly for her and again I'm not taking away from her win, but I do like her and I think that she's great for the sport. I'm just saying, the day after they were like she gained 20-some-odd pounds.

Speaker 5:

Is that okay, and usually that's a conversation they allow men to kind of get away with that.

Speaker 6:

But, now of course it's women. That's the conversation. They allow men to kind of get away with that. But now of course you know it's women. And, as you know, dana White had a limit why he didn't have cyborgs fight? Because he didn't want to go above like 135, 145. She couldn't get in there. And so now he's being oppressive and allow larger weights or larger women to compete. But he wouldn't do that before, right. So remember, ronda Rousey also used to be very skinny, right. So anyway, next fight.

Speaker 5:

No. So it's weird because again back in the day, it's like the day you weigh in is the day you true weight, right? So then there'll be fighters literally going in the sauna just to lose that last pound, whatever. They don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1:

I was just about to say that I was like I used to remember, at least somewhat recently, that guys would weigh in and if they didn't make weight they would have to go back and do it, and then they would come back out a couple hours later and then make weight and then try to make weight again.

Speaker 5:

They had to take off their clothes to to be on the scale. At the time, you remember, they used to hold up a towel daniel cormier.

Speaker 5:

It was the craziest and actually that's why I think I felt the truest, because again, when that happened, your body changes because the night before that's the night before, so that your truest uh performance will be okay. The way of you changing your uh, when you lost weight the day and then you fought the next day, you have two days of recovery now. So again you're bulking up to the point of, like you said, you can eat like anything you want after you weigh in the day, before you actually weigh in. So that's why they're like 20 pounds really over. So now you're comfortable. You pooped everything out, whatever. No, straight up. Like I've literally seen it and it's the crazy thing, that's what I'm saying. Like they do the poop. You've seen the poop. Right, I've seen the poop. Yeah, the poop was literally, it was yeah anyway, but that's what I'm saying. Like the politics of it, because they have to make it look like it's a legit thing, but it's not damn yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 5:

I didn't know that though no, it's, it's politics to it. Don't, don't, don't get it twisted, all right, um with any anything else. Everybody I actually do you know what's so funny? Not to cut you off, I want to talk about the holloway joint real quick. That shit was fucking epic. That shit fucking was real. Like honestly, even though I didn't, I didn't vote, I lost that shit. Okay, I didn't. But the thing about the reason why I lost it because holloway hasn't been doing anything lately, until just this recently he's been like people been scared of him, like scared of some standing toe-to-toe, and that's the reason why I'm pissed. That's why I voted to, obviously, because I'm thinking jake geishi was going to pretty much do what the typical UFC people like I'm going to win the fight and stay away in the strike right and when he started right for the last 10 seconds.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and just got whaled at Yo not whaled.

Speaker 5:

No, he got punished. Like it was literally like straight up like a movie, like it was like Easy.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, I said it before, I'll say it again Max is the best boxer in the UFC. He was going. Sometimes it's not really all about knocking somebody out and having all that power. It was about straight up. It's about sometimes when you just hit people more times than they hit you and you just hit them a bunch of times I don't think it was that to a certain to an end of it. It just becomes a a combination of just getting rocked the entire time.

Speaker 5:

I felt different with that. I think holloway, his skill, he like you know how. Okay again, I guess it's coming from experience. If I know my confidence that this right like A-Train will know If you know this right hand is going to knock you out and you know I just need to connect this one right hand. If I stand toe-to-toe, if this right hand connects I'm going to knock you out. Holloway knew that. Like he knew, stand right here and I guarantee I'm going to knock you out. That's what he knew. The last 10 seconds who gambles at 10 seconds to knock somebody out?

Speaker 6:

He knew, Like Holloway, he does it all the time. Was that your Tiffany? Was that your?

Speaker 3:

pick, I chose. Gitche probably because he has the most best blend of styles. There is something that I forgot about. I have my little notebook um of what happened, fight analysis. But for the striking coach gentleman here, I remembered that gaethje got eye poked twice now in your guys's experience, yes, the fight did continue, but how much do you think this rattled gaethje? None his game. You don't think so? Why is?

Speaker 1:

that, because again you would know His nose was broken in the first it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5:

Your adrenaline is pumping so much that it doesn't matter if you get eye poked. If you're really that injured, you will stop the fight or you will give your fourth five minutes if you're really that bad. Gaethje knew he's a scrapper. Any scrapper is going to be like all right, I got eye poke, but I have another eye. Do you understand? I love that. I love that. No, no, straight up, like if I was. I grew up that way. Like like if I have a, if my, if my left arm got dislocated.

Speaker 3:

I I understand that.

Speaker 5:

No, don't Like. There's certain people that are like, built different, like that. Yes, they will like. If I got dislocated, my arm got dislocated in a fight, actually, in my fight my hip got dislocated in that fight.

Speaker 4:

You can use the other hip.

Speaker 5:

Is that what they tell the senior citizens?

Speaker 3:

before they press the lifeblood, all right.

Speaker 5:

So this is coming from non-fighters and motherfuckers. So the thing about it is it's a different beast. You have to push through whatever you need to do and again he's not going to quit and say, okay, I'm going to take on the. He's like alright, let's go, I'm a scrapper.

Speaker 1:

His nose was broken in the first round.

Speaker 6:

Exactly.

Speaker 5:

So he's obviously a scrapper.

Speaker 1:

But the idea behind it is he got his nose broken in the first and then got his face beat up for the rest of the fight, until the last 10 seconds. He told Gaethje meet me in the middle. Gaethje met him there and he put his ass to sleep.

Speaker 5:

Okay, okay, guess what? Did he walk away or did he stand in front, like this is?

Speaker 3:

people. They both walk towards the center. They knew they wanted a good finish. No, no.

Speaker 5:

Holloway is a better fighter. Only it comes to that. But I'm just saying and he moved up in weight yeah, but he didn't the thing about Gaethje did not like back down like what normal people do he was the bigger man.

Speaker 6:

Okay, but he's the bigger guy. He's a stronger guy. He has the best better skill sets overall. But he's the bigger guy, he's a stronger guy.

Speaker 6:

He has the best better skill sets overall but he's had his night, he's had his lights put out and max hasn't, as you mentioned, between the eye pokes, which were not direct eye pokes, because there's a difference between a person trying to grab you and I poke you, versus someone giving a finger jab and those. That's. That was a jumping back fist, jumping back kick, right, we've seen people who think that, uh, joe rogan is the best fighter ever and guess what? That's one of his kicks, right? So we know that a jumping back kick or a back kick, is a powerful kick. He broke his nose, probably broke his face, probably broke his eye socket when he hit him with that shot and that pretty much was downhill for them. So you notice not just that he walked in and punched in what it's that, where was their takedown? Where was the grappling? Where was the kicking?

Speaker 1:

it was all the championship. There was going to be no takedowns. All those men were going to stand there and scrap, had he?

Speaker 6:

did not display them, and so it was an intelligent pick, I think, to pick Gaethje, based on all that he has, versus Holloway, who primarily is a boxer, and he will tell you I'm the best, I have the best hands and it's like, yeah, but hands is not all there is to this game.

Speaker 6:

But those two gentlemen were going to fight that only fight him with hands and literally he, he said, come to the center, probably not saying I know I'm going to knock you out, because he doesn't knock people out, he wears you down because he's a volume fighter, a volume puncher, exactly. But what's his name? Obliged him, walked in there and paid the consequences, alright.

Speaker 5:

So anything else Okay we're done with that, okay.

Speaker 1:

Ace, you won with that.

Speaker 5:

Okay, we're done with that Okay. You won you won with that, all right.

Speaker 1:

I know I did.

Speaker 5:

It's so funny.

Speaker 1:

He's literally like y'all was John like disrespecting my man.

Speaker 5:

Just like he ain't got the power, he ain't got this. He ain't got that no, not you Cause you, he ain't got that no, not you. No, Because you didn't give your pick that way. But I'm saying these guys were in here like he ain't got the power, he don't hit hard enough.

Speaker 1:

He don't do this, he don't do that, and they always talk about how a knockout is the only thing that you should do in a fight. You can't just volume a person to death and Max did both.

Speaker 5:

All right, so anybody and Max did both. All right, so anybody else? Shout out to Max Holloway, anybody else? You want to talk about Jamal and Alex Pierre? What are you talking about? We talked more about the actual main event.

Speaker 6:

Let me ask a question, tiffany.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 6:

What do you think about the Alex fight?

Speaker 3:

Yes, the Alex fight.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, oh.

Speaker 3:

Alex Pereira versus Hill oh my God, oh my God. Oh, my God.

Speaker 6:

Exactly what happened there. What's your narration? What's your assessment? What's?

Speaker 3:

your analysis. Oh my gosh, that's a lot of pressure, nah.

Speaker 5:

So what do you feel like? So, before the fight started, what did you think that Hill?

Speaker 1:

Why did you pick Pereira?

Speaker 3:

He's just the better fighter. He's just the better kickboxer, but it's.

Speaker 5:

MMA, it's MMA, so you can't say the better.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you can. If you know two people are going to stand there and fight, you don't have to worry about it the reason why Hill was in that fight and competitive because he was knocking people out.

Speaker 6:

It's the last bunch of fights he was knocking people out, cold, shocking the world, knocking people out. Now the issue was and I think you had mentioned it at some point was that Hill was off for a while, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I actually wrote this as one of my reasons I chose Pereira, because Hill just had an Achilles tendon injury last year and that could be a really big game changer. That changes how you grapple, that changes how you strike. So there's just a lot of disadvantages. People say like, oh, everything is fine, I'll recover, but in a big fight like this against you, know, they're big boys.

Speaker 1:

I actually forgot about that. I may have went the other way if I were to remember that, but I, like I said, I'm still you went black. It was short, I'm rooting for everybody.

Speaker 5:

Black baby, he's the men in black shout out to my chem folk.

Speaker 6:

but I'll add the other piece is that Jamal beat Glover Texera, who is Alex's coach, and so between that and the fact that he was dissing Alex and his country right, his nation he went hard. He went so hard at that for a short notice, like you're already at disadvantage, because short notice that means you didn't have a full camp in preparation and Alex you know, I think what was so beautiful about that finish was he got kicked in the groin. He waves the referee off and said no, I got this, I got this. And he just stepped forward and crushed him. One shot right, one shot, one kill. You just can't have more he stepped on his foot.

Speaker 1:

Beautiful technique, I guess, if you you know as a fighter. He stepped on his foot. Beautiful technique, I guess, as a fighter. But he stepped on his foot and then knocked him the fuck out.

Speaker 6:

Well, you know what you can miss stepping on the foot. So I'm not sure how strategic that could be. It's helpful for sure, but not everybody is skillful enough to always step on someone's foot. I think the point is that he walked through fire, he took some shots and he was so laser focused on breaking this guy down. And that is beauty, because sometimes it's skill, sometimes it's heart, sometimes it's desire, sometimes it's will.

Speaker 6:

And one thing that made to me this whole UFC card exciting is that you saw elements of that in different fights. Some people who were skillful won and some just had the will Right. They just had the desire, they just were hungry, and so I think you like, I think any fan of fighting likes all those narratives and they enjoy it. So overall, I think it was one of the best UFC fights, probably ever right. In terms of competition and even results.

Speaker 5:

All right, well, again, we can keep going and going about this, whatever, but we're pretty much past that time. Let's have any closing remarks or any feelings y'all have to talk about.

Speaker 1:

I pick better than the coaches.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think, I think that's not true. To be fair, if, if, if like coaches, do that.

Speaker 5:

Hey, train, we'll do better next time you better.

Speaker 6:

No see, coaching is about coaching. Right, fighting is about fighting.

Speaker 1:

And picking is about picking, and I pick better than the coaches. I ain't coach better than the coaches. Exactly, I coach better than the coaches. No, you don't fight better than the fighters. Well, I pick better than the coaches.

Speaker 6:

That's what I did definitely can do fighting anytime, anywhere, any place, anyone and I'm always ready for that, for sure, when it comes to picking for people it's just for the patreon members.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. I think people would want to watch that.

Speaker 6:

People would want to bet.

Speaker 6:

It's just for the Patreon members when it comes to coaching and analyzing and all that stuff. I think that's what people want to hear. Yeah, right, because that's not always done. You can get on the internet and hear everyone's personal opinion because of one reason or another, but in terms of understanding why a fighter might be motivated, or even, as Tiffany mentioned, kaler practiced that move right. We saw the same thing when we saw Jon Jones' last fight right against I can't remember the Frenchman. He did that move over and over again and within seconds he used that and finished that fight. So that's what we want to see. I think that's what fans want to see and want to hear. That's my final word.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, hey guys, we're going to do better next time. Tiffany, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 5:

Definitely we'll get better and we'll be better.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying and follow my pics. If you want to win some money, all right, I'll let you all have peace.

Speaker 5:

Dmv Peace Cheers.