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Unpacking Armenian Genocide Denial & Drake AI's Rap Revolution & Garcia/Haney Boxing match.
As the echoes of Marc's poignant melodies from the Armenian Genocide commemoration in D.C. still resonate, we bring you a stirring conversation that delves into the heart of remembrance and the shadows of historical denial. Joined by this vibrant rapper and activist, our dialogue transcends mere reflection, confronting the often-unspoken political maneuvering that shrouds our understanding of the past.
Shifting to a beat of a different drum, the episode takes an unexpected turn into the digital realm where AI has begun spitting bars that could rival rap legends.. Tune in as we grapple with these complex issues, offering insights that might just change the way you listen to the next chart-topping hit. Also talking about Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia Boxing match contested in the super lightweight division between the WBC super lightweight champion.
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DMV. Welcome everybody to another episode of the Absolute DMV Podcast. It's your man, ace Boogie. I'm here with a few good guys. I'm here with my man, mark. Hey, what's going on? My man A-Train.
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Speaker 1:I mean Everybody had a good weekend. I mean mine was nice and relaxing. You know I did the 420 thing, but I did it in the crib. You didn't do what everybody else did, bro've. I've done it for so long that it's to a certain extent it's like drinking holidays, it's like amateur hour, so I don't really even want to be out there. So you know, every day is 420 exactly. You know that's how I live my life, so it's a wonderful thing. But that was my weekend. Like I said, I kept it chill. You know what about y'all?
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Speaker 5:Yeah, I was just in DC yesterday. Yesterday was April 24th. It's the commemoration of the Armenian Genocide. That's the date that the Armenian Genocide started, so it's the 109th anniversary of it. And you know, the perpetrator, Ottoman Empire, modern-day Turkey, still has denied it and there's a lot of, you know, ongoing denial and continued persecution against Armenians across the world and in the diaspora, but mostly at home and in Turkey and everything. So it's you know we're marching every year and trying to raise awareness and hopefully have, you know, government sort of not just sort of acknowledge it, which all 50 states independently have, and President Biden being the first sitting president to acknowledge it, but also actually put that into policy and pressure to, you know, actually get some acknowledgement from the perpetrator itself how big was the crowd.
Speaker 5:It was a good. It was a good crowd, I mean like a couple hundred people for sure, and we marched from the Azerbaijani embassy down on sort of consulate row, embassy row, all the way down to Lafayette Plaza at the White House, and then we had a big sort of commemoration and speaking and everything. Yeah, there were speakers.
Speaker 3:You said speakers, or just like pretty much everybody was talking or just hanging out.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, there's some speakers. You said speakers or just like pretty much everybody was talking or just hanging out. Yeah, no, there were some speakers. Yeah for sure, definitely people giving some you know some speaker sort of speeches about what's going on. I think there was a senator there who spoke as well and sort of voicing support. And yeah, no, there's every year they do that. Armenians all across the world commemorate it and you know I have a song about the Armenian genocide which is being used in schools. So I've been able to perform at some of these events in the past in Times Square and at March for Justice out in LA, and a few times here at the Lafayette Plaza in DC. But, yeah, armenians just all over the world acknowledge that and that's a very important day for us.
Speaker 2:What's the date?
Speaker 5:April 24th, which is the day that the ottoman empire sort of rounded up all the leaders of the armenians, the you know, the politicians, uh, you know uh clergy and everyone, and they just kind of got the, the leaders, out of the way first before starting in on everyone else. So it's the, the day of the, the start of the of the genocide.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm sorry this is going to probably sound really ignorant because I might be just stupid. How do you deny a genocide?
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, it's so. There's a whole lot of scholarly research about it. Ottoman Empire, after essentially in many ways sort of achieving what they had meant to do, which was exterminating about 1.5 million Armenians, over 800,000 Greeks and then about 350,000 Assyrians and other indigenous groups, and seizing a huge amount of land to consolidate their crumbling empire and give themselves what is now the region of Turkey They've just edited I mean, internet wasn't around, but they're currently editing the internet. They're teaching a false curriculum in their school and sort of fostering this level of hatred towards other minorities and non-Turkic people in that area.
Speaker 5:Also, the fact that they're in a semi-politically gray area of power, being, you know, a NATO member, even though they're not in the North or the Atlantic, but they're in NATO. They're a valuable ally to a lot of Western countries being in that sort of Middle Eastern region, which gives them a lot of sway to sort of say we're going to do what we want to do and teach what we want to teach, despite you know whatever you think you know. So that puts the US and other Western countries, while they disagree with it, in kind of a tough position, because they're trying to, you know, wind down these wars in the Middle East that you know, we ran into all of a sudden in the early 2000s and they're a valuable ally, which is unfortunate. Okay All right Damn.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's just the synopsis of where we are right now. Just a little bit of it Deep, yeah, thank you. Thank you, professor Mark.
Speaker 5:This has been another history lesson.
Speaker 3:I love it.
Speaker 1:And not to take it and be like that but at the same time. It's one of those things where it's like we got to understand why they can't change. Can't change, not, I don't want to say change history, but stop teaching certain things. Yeah, because that is a very easy way to deny, and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like history, so if they can do it to you guys, imagine what they can do to anyone else 100 it's just one of those things where it's just like we got to be very careful about, you know, I guess, the education, what, what kids know, I mean what people know, because even there was what there was. One time I've seen tom hanks say something like he didn't even know about the tulsa massacre. Yeah, so, um. So it's like when, like when you hear things like that, someone who I'm sure is a very intelligent man, very well traveled, and he's educated yeah you know what I'm saying Very well traveled, everything like that.
Speaker 1:To not hear about his own history is one of those things. It's baffling. And so you know, it's just like I said. It's just one of those things where you got a very. You gotta be very careful about it, but um well, that's.
Speaker 5:That's also something that I remember as a kid growing up in the 90s.
Speaker 5:You know, here in montgomery county the school system is very good, um, in comparison to a lot of other counties in other states. But even then I remember only learning about the civil rights era and certain aspects of like putting martin luther king and praising him for the work he did, which is fantastic, but we never heard about the really rough stuff which sort of painted white people in that time era in a bad light, which is just the truth of what it was. So the pick and choose sort of narrative, you know that could lead to Tom Hanks, you know who's gone to high school, gone to college, but never learned about Tulsa, because that's a page you know, and we see this with the Native Americans and the indigenous. It's kind of like Rage Against the Machine. They say who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. So whoever is in power now controls the narrative of what was in the past and that determines the future by what people are learning and what they know.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Speaking of long-winded no no no, no, no, no. That's great, but, like you, also performed as well.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, yeah, there's a lot of breath control for that I got to be long-winded for that, that's all. I'm saying I see the segue, I see the dots connect. Yeah, no, I did a performance unrelated to the Armenian Genocide commemoration. That was on Saturday at the concert to end fossil fuels. So another really important cause, down actually in DC as well, down on the National Mall, right in front of the Washington Monument. So, yeah, no, shout out to the youth organizations that put that together and Fridays for future DC.
Speaker 5:So it's a very important cause Just keeping our planet healthy and ending fossil fuel for the next generation to have a healthy, sustainable planet to live on.
Speaker 3:While people are smoking blunts outside.
Speaker 4:At the same time, it's from the Earth.
Speaker 3:I was about to say that is not a fossil fuel. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:It's not giving off bad emissions in the air.
Speaker 5:See, that's not the issue. The issue was at the same time where we got the youth giving passionate speeches about preserving that. You got the Red Bull F1 thing happening, where they have the race car just driving up and down.
Speaker 3:Pennsylvania Avenue. That was huge Doing burnouts. Blame me, but you don't want to say nothing about that right. I wasn't blaming you and you know those race cars probably get like three miles to the gallon. Honestly, it's just responsibility I do take responsibility for me and all my fellow 420 partakers.
Speaker 2:Okay. Was that performance a one-off or was it something that you're going to do on a regular basis or yearly? Is this something that you're going?
Speaker 5:to do on a regular basis or yearly. You know, right now it's just a one-off. I was blessed to connect with them, but they're really cool people and yeah, no, I had a good time, so I'd definitely be happy to do that again, for sure.
Speaker 3:I was lit.
Speaker 1:Blessings, blessings, Well, even with that. So my man performed, killed it on the stage Hip-hop we got some more hip-hop. We got some more hip-hop. I mean, can it get any better than this? We have an AI response from Drake Like confirmed AI, because Tupac is not alive.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:Snoop said, he definitely did not do that.
Speaker 5:How do we know, though, that he's not alive still? How do we know?
Speaker 1:We know that Tupac's family have now sent a cease and desist to Drake about this travesty that he has put out like. Honestly, I do have to say that's mad, disrespectful yeah, I mean it's it's crazy to do one. And then also it's why are you bringing dead people into your beef like leave them out, leave, leave, snoop out? I mean he's alive, of course, but why are we? Why are we bringing Tupac out the grave to help you fight your beef with Kendrick?
Speaker 3:And why are we?
Speaker 1:faking a Snoop verse.
Speaker 3:I think he was trying to use the West Coast kind of thing, I guess, and I don't know why would he use Tupac?
Speaker 1:Then get a real West Coast artist to come out there and rap with you, if they really don't like. Kendrick, or if he really likes you that much. If it was a real rap.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but it's all AI. Even his verse is AI right.
Speaker 1:No, he's taking full claim for this one. He wrote all the AI.
Speaker 3:I believe so. Yeah, Even the cadence of Tupac and also Snoop sound like.
Speaker 5:But just to clarify, this is an AI algorithm. It's not him doing a delivery. This is an actual AI recording.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe the AI recording is. He did it and his voice is AI to sound like Tupac.
Speaker 3:This is an office, yeah, and then to sound like Snoop.
Speaker 5:I see.
Speaker 1:And so yeah, so Snoop, like I said, snoop came out and said no, that was not me. And so yeah, so Snoop, like I said, snoop came out and said no, that was not me. Yeah, that's not cool, Not in those words, but you know what I'm saying. He was more Snoopish about it. However, you want to see that you know what I'm saying. Doggy dog-ish yeah, it was more doggy dog-ish. Let's put it that way Snoop's the cool one. Doggy dog, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know, should we play a little bit of it? I don't know. I mean, you got it, I got it. Which one? You want to just play Drake's part, or do you want to play that?
Speaker 1:No, no no, I don't want to disrespect those two gentlemen by playing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just play Drake's part yeah just play Drake's part. Okay. Sorry, that was Snoop's part.
Speaker 1:That was Snoop's part Sorry, Come on man.
Speaker 3:Sorry, it was Snoop's part. Sorry, I was trying to.
Speaker 1:Sorry, snoop, no disrespect was meant Egoist, because it was.
Speaker 3:No, because he so with Snoop actually his part. He kind of went right in after Snoop.
Speaker 1:Oh okay.
Speaker 5:That's why I mean he went in right after himself, right.
Speaker 7:Right, right, exactly. Let me see if I get this right.
Speaker 5:I just got that. Sounds just like Snoop. That's crazy, though this AI. You can't even tell.
Speaker 4:What a time to be alive. Yeah, really Okay. Okay, okay, I mean.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I gotta look this up. I gotta see what he means by that Taylor Swift thing.
Speaker 5:He's a corporate industry puppet. So just to clarify, is he writing all the lyrics Actually, like a real artist? You're writing all the lyrics and then he's just using an AI program to make some of the lyrics sound like Tupac.
Speaker 1:And Snoop, or is it the?
Speaker 5:lyrics AI generated as well.
Speaker 1:I mean you're going to have to listen to it on your own.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry we're not going to play it here because, like I said, I don't want to disrespect those gentlemen.
Speaker 3:The cadence sounds just like Drake Wilde with a Snoop voice.
Speaker 1:The Tupac one especially.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:The Snoop one. Maybe he kind of understands Snoop's flow a little bit so he could kind of play with it. But the Tupac one did not sound like. I mean it sounded like Tupac, it just didn't sound like Tupac's cadence.
Speaker 3:His cadence was all Drake. Like the Drake, the way he's, the flow of it, how it goes in and out, you know the bridges, it was exactly like what Drake would do.
Speaker 1:And, with that being said, I am actually now sick of this beef. I was once very excited about it, and now I am completely just I told you from the start. Yeah, I'm disappointed. Are we done with it?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm pretty.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, we're definitely done with it.
Speaker 1:I mean it the only way I'm gonna talk about this again is if kendrick says no. But kendrick, I don't think kendrick's gonna say anything?
Speaker 3:I think kendrick is probably. No, he's already ready.
Speaker 1:He's already ready to already say something no, if he's already ready, then why hasn't he said it?
Speaker 3:because it's also. He's going back and forth with like shit, this beef is not. The beef is getting outrageous. That that's what I'm saying. Yeah, if I was, it's child's play.
Speaker 4:What's happening? It started out as child's play.
Speaker 3:It's going, it's growing farther into child's play Because you can't trust, because, think about it, you can't trust anything to be real, like you can't trust. If it's AI, now, like now, ai is a problem.
Speaker 1:Like, so you think it's ai.
Speaker 5:I mean even kanye's jumped in, so it's like drake versus everybody and it's kind of. It's kind of weird, it's diluted at this point and I think also like kendrick at this point drake, this is kind of some buffoonery stuff, like he's putting in like tupac and snoop like this is getting out of control.
Speaker 4:How corny can you get, yeah like like kendrick literally does it.
Speaker 5:I don't think he needs to validate this with the response. Exactly.
Speaker 4:Because, again.
Speaker 5:It was like he said what he said and the responses were like J Cole said something that was solid, but then he took it right back. And then Drake said something and it wasn't sure if it was AI or not. He never really made a claim, but he put it on his page and then there was a fake kendrick thing. And now this, and it's just like this. This latest thing is just like. I don't think it warrants the next, the next follow-through, especially by someone like kendrick.
Speaker 1:I don't think it warrants anybody to say anything like this.
Speaker 3:Should just kind of go away now, like everybody should just be quiet, everybody should just go away because I don't really want to.
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't know, I mean I guess we love kanye. So I don't know. I mean, I guess we love Kanye, so do we love Kanye?
Speaker 5:I don't know, I like his music.
Speaker 3:I like his music.
Speaker 1:When he's actually working on music. I love the old Kanye. I'm one of those. I love the old Kanye. This new Kanye is kind of wild to me.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I like the George Bush, don't care about black people, kanye but I don't like this make America great. Kanye.
Speaker 3:Speaking of somebody in that crazy bin.
Speaker 5:That's a good way to call it. It's the crazy bin, the crazy bin.
Speaker 3:Ryan Garcia fought this weekend. Ryan Garcia, david Haney Is that Haney? Devin Haney? I just know him as Haney. Is that Haney? Devin Haney? Devin Haney? I just know him as Haney. All right, so I have something to talk about that, because that's what I'm saying. The way Ryan Garcia promoted this fight was more like people thought he was going to lose because he was mentally unstable. The way he was reacting, the way he was doing it, because he was mentally unstable, the way he was reacting, the way he was doing it, and then he comes and beats the brakes off of it was very upsetting to a lot of people, and I was not say upset because I didn't really care. But then also I know what's happening to the boxing world, like I think that a lot of times it's staged. Like you said, talking to you about it, you think that Ryan Garcia was probably staging the way he was acting to bring the story.
Speaker 1:I think he sold this fight. I think people wanted to see him. To a certain extent, they didn't know what they were going to get from ryan garcia he's he started off as a youtuber. He just lost the tank a year ago. You know, I'm saying, to fight devin haney next with an undefeated fighter was going to be a tough matchup for him and I mean I don't know if we should give him props, if we should take anything away from him because he came in heavy.
Speaker 3:I don't know he definitely didn't make weight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he came in three and a half pounds heavy. Three, yeah, three, and I believe in boxing. In certain occasions that'll put you in a different weight class.
Speaker 3:I mean, coach, what do you think? I'm just waiting. Do you think you sitting there, I'm just waiting? I'm just because you're quiet over there. I want to know.
Speaker 2:I'm just waiting to hear what you guys have to say.
Speaker 3:You know so like I say, it's because I think that I wasn't a big Devin Haney fan. Anyways, because after the Lomachenko fight, because I thought Lomachenko won that fight.
Speaker 3:I agree, the way he fought that fight was the same way he fought this fight. He just got caught over and over again with the right well, the right, the left cross, the left cross. He just got exposed. He got exposed and he didn't know what to do when he got exposed. Yes, he had a couple rounds in the fight that he did recover, but at the same time he got exposed. Yes, he had a couple rounds in the fight that he did recover, but at the same time he got caught. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I mean, he got caught a few times.
Speaker 3:The first round he got caught, he was dropped three times Seventh round, he got caught and, I think, the 10th round. I think he got caught too as well, but he got caught a lot of times. It didn't matter. His face showed that he got caught.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't. Once again, I don't know if, like I said, we should give Ryan props or We'll see his next fight.
Speaker 2:I say we'll see his next fight. Why do you think Ryan lost? Why do you think Ryan lost? I mean sorry. Why do you think Devin lost?
Speaker 3:I mean sorry. Why do you think Devin lost? I think he lost because his corner or his coach told him something different than he did in the fight. I think it was actually his corner, not him. I think that's what it was, because, technically, when he got caught, he should know not to stand in toe-to-toe with Ryan Garcia. He kept walking up to Ryan Garcia and then try to grab Ryder to be close, and that's when he kept getting caught. The hook, every hook, is supposed to be close range. There's no swinging hooks, there's no high hooks. So he got caught with close range, being in front of Ryan Garcia, which, when he was with Lomachenko, was he not close to Lomachenko? He was more dancing around Lomachenko and that's the reason why he didn't get hit with all the heavy punches. That's what I'm saying. So who?
Speaker 2:do you think is a better fighter? The who who, them two? Yeah, in general you think Ryan's better.
Speaker 3:I think they're both on the same level. I don't think actually each. I think they're both at the same level of like, regardless of what his name was undefeated. I think they were both in the same level and it was like a cancel. Just one was a better person, that's all. But also. But I also found out that Ryan learned from the tank fight and used those techniques against Haney, the high guard. He used the high guard to set up the hook and that's what Tank did with his fight.
Speaker 1:So, I guess he might be a better fighter then I mean I don't know, I think styles make fights. I mean, I don't know, I think styles make fights. And to a certain extent I think Devin didn't realize how fast Ryan's left hook was. So when Ryan would stick it out, like you said, high guard him, pump the jab out to him, hold it out there, and then he followed up with the hook, I don't think he realized how quick it was coming. So, but for him to get hit by some, for him to get hit by that punch over and over again, and not not adjust and not adjust.
Speaker 3:But that's what I'm saying. That's up to the coaches to say hey, I'm seeing your footwork, okay, that's what I'm saying. It's weird because a real experienced fighter would adjust to something like that and know okay, he's going's going to keep doing this because Ryan didn't do anything different. All through the round he didn't change. I mean, he might have threw an uppercut here or there, but most likely he bombarded him with punches, hooks and hooks and hooks. He set up the jab to set up a hook, that's all it was Hooks, hook, hook, hook, hook. And then Haney literally kept ducking because he kept getting hit with the uh, the setup of the hooks, that's what he did.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just saw it looked like it was really fast. Oh, of course it just looked like he couldn't catch up with it, and that's how he was getting tagged with it, did you guys bet?
Speaker 2:on the fight? No, would you bet?
Speaker 1:in this case, I did not bet on this fight. Um, I wanted when ryan came in heavy. That's when I was like you know what, I don't know if I want to bet on this because I don't know if Ryan is actually serious about this fight. So I didn't bet because I did actually want to go, ryan, and in this situation I just felt like Ryan was actually the one with the real power. I don't think Devin hits that hard. He definitely.
Speaker 3:yeah, I think Ryan had with the real power. I don't think Devin hits that hard. Yeah, definitely, I think Ryan had legitimately the real power. Yeah, out of the two fighters.
Speaker 1:Ryan was the most powerful puncher and so I thought that he was going to win. But, like I said, when he came in over three pounds overweight, I wasn't sure if he was serious about the fight. So I backed away from it and didn't put in a bet and I should have, because, well, ryan won well, it was.
Speaker 3:That's the thing. Like I didn't pick anybody because I didn't care too much about both fighters, but I thought the fact that, like the way haney was talking and his camp was talking, he he was going to expose garcia for all he does, you know, saying this fight is going to make him feel like he shouldn't be fighting anymore, and that's what a disappointing situation.
Speaker 1:Like you didn't do it, I think it's uh kind of akin to the um, kevin holland, michael uh venom page, right where first round kevin was like he's quicker than he's faster than we thought, yeah, and Michael Vanden Pages was just able to go out there and and just do things that you were like how was he able to do this? Kevin Holland is an experienced, an experienced striker, so how is he able to do this? But I think sometimes when things are just too fast, it's you can't and you can't catch up to it. Almost like a fastball with a you know, a pitcher with a fastball, once that thing starts getting up around 90 and 100, you just it's hard to catch up to it.
Speaker 5:Your eyes can only take in so much movement at once. True, can't even, can't even dodge it at that point.
Speaker 3:You're trying to say he went Dragon Ball Z. Yeah right, Super Saiyan on it.
Speaker 1:I. At that point he went Dragon Ball Z, yeah right, super Saiyan on him. I mean also once again, when you keep getting hit like the damage or the knowledge, sometimes just the knowledge of hey, he keeps hitting me.
Speaker 5:It's like what you were saying A-Train, like that in a previous conversation. Like that you could have all the training and everything, everything. But if you get hit real hard the right way, you kind of just your base instincts take over and you're kind of not even focusing on maybe the right tactics at that point. You're just kind of moving away and trying to have that not happen again.
Speaker 2:That kind of overrides everything you know oh yeah, oh, I'm sorry, a good, good, good comment. But I would say, for those who are kind of into the technical side, they would say that this particular fight was a classic uh, skill versus how to win. And so if you compare the two fighters and you looked at all they can do, and so if you compare the two fighters and you looked at all they can do, devin Haney is clearly the most skillful of the two fighters. Ryan Garcia knows how to win and Ryan Garcia has the focus and Ryan Garcia actually has better amateur record. And so when you're trying to determine and you sit down and try to try to determine, what do I really see here on this fight? How do I judge these two guys?
Speaker 2:You'll realize like, okay, you know what, sometimes, as you said, a person who gets it hard changes his game in another case. In this one, you have a guy who has confidence based on his skill set, but he's not smart. And so if you really go down and you compare and you look at these guys' fights back and forth, ryan Garcia is not as skilled as Devin Haney Not at all. He's smarter than him. And Devin Haney, with all the training he's done, he stole stuff from different gyms. That's why they have the Mayweather Bill Haney beef out there all this going on. It's because he's taken stuff from a region but he's got a lot of skill, but he's not smart. And so you have to be smart, but you also have to be smart when it's time to deliver, and not everybody has that combination of skill and smart. Garcia is a smart fighter.
Speaker 2:That's why he won.
Speaker 4:Sorry, is Bill Haney the guy that was telling Mayweather that he doesn't have?
Speaker 2:I saw something on I don't know. Yeah, it's a big hot thing now that basically Mayweather has this attitude of sort of swooping in whenever someone loses to say, you know, I can help you out, right, okay, that's the guy. And so he and Bill Haney have a little, let's say, a little beef. Bill Haney is real, is Devin's father and he's really OG street and he knows a lot of background material on Mayweather. So you notice that Mayweather doesn't go on him hard because he can expose a lot of background stuff Right right.
Speaker 4:But from the clip that I saw there it kind of sounded like you know it was coming from a point of let me not say hate, but like you know, I'll say hate. Who's hating whom? Elmeny was hating on Mayweather. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely. I mean he said everything from Devin beat him in sparring. He said all kinds of stuff out there trying to live off of Mayweather's name. And you would say like, wait a minute, why did Floyd just go out there Talking about beefs right, this is another set of you know their gym beefs and fight game beefs and all that stuff. Why didn't Mayweather say something to him, say like no, he didn't beat me, he didn't do this. He didn't do that because people try to do that right to pull off a name like inspiring. They did that with errol spence back in the day that errol spence almost dropped floyd when errol spence was coming up.
Speaker 2:So what happened here is in that conversation. Look closely. He stopped mentioning something about mayweather's kids and so that lets you know that there's some stuff that people don't know that's going on with the kids that mayweather doesn't want exposed. And so he's given bill some room to talk his talk, because bill is a wild guy and it's straight street. I mean there's some people that you just kind of know for one reason or another you don't mess with them because they're not that kind of guy, and then other people that have that street background that you know yourself. You know what this guy might take me further than I want this beef to go. So I'm not going to go there with this guy. So there's going to probably be some continuation with this to see what happens, because Devin has to recover. He may have had his jaw broken in that fight. He got beat up badly in that fight and clearly Bill couldn't help him, his corner couldn't help him. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:That's why I feel like his corner gave him a facade that he thought he was going to be unstoppable and it failed. And his corner, I think it wasn't him, it was his corner, and that's what I thought, that the way the fight went, man Let him cook, not mr let him cook, but everybody's cooking. But yeah, I think that's it. I think that's all I had for this evening. I don't know if anybody else has anything no, I'm good, I'm good, y'all good everybody's all no jokes, anybody got no jokes or shit.
Speaker 3:What the fuck? Fuck, we got serious.
Speaker 5:No, that was a really good breakdown, all right.
Speaker 3:Well, we'll do better next time, definitely. I'm glad everybody's doing good. Let's do it next time.
Speaker 1:Check you out next week.
Speaker 3:DMV Peace, peace Cheers.