Absolute DMV
Absolute DMV
K-Dot and Drake Beef (Kendrick's Response) Ryan Garcia's Ring Drama, and Canelo's Fight Coming Bout
Strap in as we talk about the weather change in the DMV. Our latest episode is a cultural tapestry, weaving together personal experiences with the fashion surprises that springtime unveils. We're also turning the volume up on Kendrick Lamar's sharp-witted diss tracks, igniting a full-fledged lyrical warfare that's got us all on the edge of our seats. On Kendrick's masterful wordplay, as we break down the symbolism and seismic impact his rhymes are having on the rap game.
Controversy of Ryan Garcia's cheating allegations and the strict expectations of discipline in boxing. With a sidestep into the political ring, we briefly touch on Trump's trial before lacing up for the main event — the upcoming Canelo fight. Personal vendettas and promotional antics are just par for the course in this high-stakes showdown. So, tune in and get ready for a no-holds-barred commentary that pulls no punches, in the studio or in the ring.
DMV, dmv. My man Swank what up? And my man Ego on the board. You know what's going on, gentlemen, how y'all doing, how y'all feeling. Friday Eve, another Thursday, wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Can't complain hanging in there.
Speaker 1:I mean, the weather's nice, it's hot, the site's been nice out in the streets.
Speaker 3:Sun dresses out.
Speaker 1:Boy, it's been super nice. I love it, I enjoy it. This is my season. I'm a looker, I'm a visual person, so I just like to look, you know sometimes. So you know this is my time and where I work at is like it's different. It's different In what way? Because I don't want to divulge where I work at. No, you know what I'm saying, but like I don't want to divulge, but I'm going to say there's a lot of like smart people there, phds and you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Just all types of stuff them, the free kids, though Possibly I haven't. I haven't had the pleasure yet, so I don't know Careful what you ask for. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. So, hey, it's all good. I don't know, so I let it slide, but it's just you know right Quick.
Speaker 1:Bruh Bruh. But it's just wild being there, because there's a lot of things that you just wouldn't expect that you would see, because it's I'm going to be honest there's a lot of nerdy women there. Yes, there's a lot of nerdy women there, and this whole winter I never knew that a lot of those nerdy women Was kicked up, holy crap. We're going to give you a sight to see when the weather got warm.
Speaker 3:What a time to be alive.
Speaker 1:It's a very interesting thing. Yam's my hammy, god damn.
Speaker 2:I don't even know if that's what she said.
Speaker 4:I've never even heard that one. That's a hashtag ego right there. I never even heard that one, exactly. You can't. Yeah, that's a hashtag ego right there.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you hey, what'd you say? Hams, miami Yams, miami Yams, miami Yams, all day. Yep, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 4:First piece of merch. First piece of merch right there. But yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's crazy because it's like during the winter time they all cover it up, they're all walking around. Yeah, you don't know like it's cold well, yeah, I'm cold.
Speaker 2:I'm wearing a parka too, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, yeah, I'm not gonna say I ain't holding a parka, but yeah, yeah, um, speaking of interesting things, things that blew you away. Pause, if necessary.
Speaker 2:Pause, I don't even know what's a pause anymore, so I'll just be saying pause if necessary. Yeah, my hammy is a pause.
Speaker 4:No, you can't, because you don't even know the term.
Speaker 2:yet I don't even know what it is, but I know it's a pause.
Speaker 1:Pause all night. Yeah, yeah, interesting things blew people away. Kendrick lamar dropped a response. Yo, yeah, I okay. Last week I said I was done talking about this lies, but then I also did say that unless kendrick responded.
Speaker 6:And now kendrick has responded, but I told you he was going to. You said that.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Okay, I didn't know because I didn't know how long it was going to take. It was already two weeks, so I got disinterested, okay. So you know what I'm saying Now. He's piqued my interest again, mark you know what I'm saying, mark.
Speaker 2:No no, mark. I'm telling you this man was happy, mark came.
Speaker 1:Mark hit the group chat ASAP, like you. What was my response? Ego was like nah, we ain't talking about this. He kept going. And I had my man, mark, back.
Speaker 2:We've been following the trend of this whole beef from when it started, all the way from Big 3 to just me, to Drake's response to the AIs, to Rick Ross' response to J Cole's. We've done it all. So it just makes sense we follow up on the next episode, because I honestly do not think that this is going to be it. I think that Drake is going to come back and say something. I don't think this is the final.
Speaker 4:Guess what.
Speaker 2:Guess what, mark? No, no, we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 4:Definitely, no, definitely, we're done. After tonight, you better to see us on the fucking Instagram post and shit, because we're not talking about this shit on fucking podcast. We are, we are. Can we talk?
Speaker 5:about Chris Brown, then I do want, I actually want to mention that Shit Now that you brought it up.
Speaker 1:No, no no, I don't want to really talk about it, but I do want to mention it. I do want to mention it because I'm going to yeah, because he went the hardest out of everyone. He said the most crazy thing. Thank you, I will say he, said he basically said we Because this is.
Speaker 4:If an R&B artist is going harder than a rapper, Afrobeat artists are going against themselves too.
Speaker 3:Let's see.
Speaker 1:I mean, we can touch on it all if y'all want to touch on it.
Speaker 2:We can touch on all the beef, Paul.
Speaker 1:You see, I wasn't going to do that. I purposely, I purposely left it at where I left it, michael Scott that's what she said on man.
Speaker 2:I got to say Pause, let's see.
Speaker 1:But yeah, for real, for real, Kendrick's not bad. No, but yeah, Kendrick came in and he came in hard.
Speaker 2:He came in, this disc to me sounded almost like a compressed album.
Speaker 2:He came in with an intro that was similar to the way an album would start with a very intricate sample, which is a, a rewinded version of a quote from, uh, a remake of the wizard of Oz, which featured, uh, michael Jackson in it as one of the actors who Drake compares himself to often, sometimes as, like you know, the king of of pop music and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Uh, this sort of as a double entrandra, in the sense that he had that movie used with the actor or one of the cast, the scaretro, actually being played by Michael Jackson, and that kind of is saying the quote that's in reverse is saying don't listen to them or no, it's all true, listen to them, I am a phony. And that's played in reverse. So that kind of goes to show is like he's saying that Drake is a phony and then he's also saying that, again, like the Wizard of Oz in that movie was a phony, and then, on top of that, all the characters like the Scarecrow lacked a brain, tin man lacked a heart and Lion lacked courage, that's all kind of like shots from Kendrick at Drake's and he lacks courage and heart and a brain and everything.
Speaker 4:I wish I had to part when it started off. But do you want to listen a little bit of it?
Speaker 1:I mean we can play a little bit of it. I mean, is there a certain part Y'all want to take it from?
Speaker 2:the we can't play the whole thing because it's six minutes long. It's a long record. It's like a compressed album.
Speaker 1:It's an EP of its own type of thing.
Speaker 4:You want to start it from a minute. I think we should start it from a minute.
Speaker 1:I guess start it from a minute in, I guess I don't you know. Let's see what he did. I'm not exactly sure, I guess that's good for it. Yeah, this is right after the intro ends and the actual yeah.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:There's a fake engineer over here.
Speaker 5:It's off thelabel. My bad Shout out to J Cole.
Speaker 1:The flow's crazy. I can't lie about that, yo, he killed it, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5:The flow is crazy. I don't like my trap shit, but this shit went hard.
Speaker 2:Well, I think the good thing about this is he's got a lot of diversity in his flow. The whole song, production-wise, has a lot of diversity. It starts off with an intro, slow sort of melodic, obviously the sample, then he gets into this banger and he's got a lot of different back and forth with his flow. Again, I think that a lot of one of the things that I feel like drake still has is he did kind of send out a response. There was the part where he's talking about like I hate the way you do this, I hate the way you look, I hate the way you do that, which drake's response was to tweet. I think it was from a tv show which is kind of like a middle school drama, and like one of the girls was like I hate the way you look at me.
Speaker 5:I hate the way you wear your hair.
Speaker 2:I hate the way you do that kind of similar style of you know his put down. Yeah, but again, that's just a tweet. We haven't heard his actual response yet, but the fact that he already put that out means why, well, so it's pretty recent, but it means he's probably formulating something so we all have heard the, the response, we've all heard euphoria.
Speaker 1:We all have heard it right, yeah, what do you guys think about it?
Speaker 4:I, I like it. I mean again, this is from my opinion on a lyricist that's actually a lyricist like this person is. This is what he was bred from, right he, he doesn't do the all right, let me find the Nietzsche kind of thing. He did it in albums. This is his flow. Everybody else the other lyricists J Cole should have been this level. Do you know what I'm saying? And it didn't happen so to me. That's why I said I'm done with it, because there's only one person out of this whole beef is actually speaking to the. You know, like I said, he's going with the terms of a beef. Do you say I'm gonna call you out lyrically?
Speaker 1:okay, okay that's, and that's me, okay, okay. So what do you think about it?
Speaker 3:well, um, I mean, it was expected, you know, you bite the lion's tail, you, you get a reaction, um, but I want to speak From more, from like a literally Literary standpoint or perspective. This man uses, symbolisms, uses, yeah, you know, like you said, double entendres, triple entendres. He uses, like his body of work Is just it's crazy, you know, like you literally have to study this shit. So big ups to him.
Speaker 4:I mean, you know, I guess it's what We've been waiting for as far as the culture is concerned, but the thing about it he did, it's kind of I feel like he learned, like from Eminem Pretty much that situation no, I'm talking about For beefs, like cause Eminem does the same thing. He goes hard on a track.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this man actually you could tell Like he didn't just Like. This stuff is not like he, this is his. He put work into it like you know. It's structured, you know, like from the intro to the middle to the yeah, like back in the day kumo versus ll kujay beef.
Speaker 4:There's things like that that they did the same thing. They had puns that had you know things that shot at the person because they put work into it yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It's kind of the same thing as, like you compare, like like bringing eminem up like a good thing would be like to look at the, the contrast between when mgk was taking shots in eminem. You listen to mgk's, you know record and it's like, okay, one syllable rhymes here and there some kind of cheap stuff, stuff, this and that little you know vulgar thing about his daughter. This and that, nothing really enlightening or little you know vulgar thing about his daughter.
Speaker 5:This and that. Nothing really enlightening, or?
Speaker 2:complicated, you know, and then Eminem's response is like multisyllable rhymes, double entendres, he's going over like stuff that it's like you have to pay attention to to comprehend and understand what he's saying. So Kendrick is on that next level. But then I feel like Kendrick also like has a really good artistry and production team behind him, so he's got a lot of, you know, like this is like almost like a six minutes long, so it's a lot of different back ups and downs and force, which is great, but this beef, all of them have producers and engineers, so there's levels to the shit because 40 40 makes a lot of drake stuff.
Speaker 4:That's fire too. Why can't you come up with something like that?
Speaker 3:again, like we said. You know I think I said this before Drake I feel like Drake is more commercial. If it's coming up with something that's going to bang in the street Not bang in the street Something that's going to bang in the club, Something that's going to be repeated Everybody jumps into it Then, yes, he's good at that. But when it comes to this shit excuse my French Art Right.
Speaker 2:It's levels to it. That's an interesting thing, because I think that we are seeing two very different fan bases and demographics in this beef. You could say that Because you've got Drake's fan base, which is going to be the sort of more top 40 pop listeners, right, maybe listeners who are not diehard hip hop fans, sorry not to cut you off.
Speaker 3:key phrase pop.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, and then Kendrick's listeners fan base is going to be a mix of that, but then also the diehard hip-hop, boom-bop, boom-bap sort of lyricist fan base as well. So you're going to have a mix of like. I feel like the ace that Drake still has up his sleeve is the fact that he can connect to that sort of cheap, catchy sort of pop, just like he did with Back to Back, and have people singing to a record that's a diss record, and if he does that, then you're kind of winning the battle because everyone's singing along and dissing the other party when they're doing it kind of by default.
Speaker 4:I'm waiting for it. I'm going to make a.
Speaker 1:All right Real quick. On the diss song, I think Euphoria is great. I think it was very executed lyrically well, flow, crazy, I mean just. I think he did that well and we know that Kendrick's that type of lyricist. So this is what we were pretty much expecting to get, so we got it. The only thing about it that I will say is I think it kind of lacks some substance, and when I say that, I mean on the aspect of he didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. We know Drake has had plastic surgery. We know Drake had a problem with his kid or you know, in the beginning. We know everything that you're saying. We know he's piggybacking off Rick Ross. He's piggybacking off Pusha T. He's piggybacking off Joe Budden. He's piggybacking off almost everybody that has said something about Drake. So that's why he even said it in the song.
Speaker 1:When I say we hate, that's what I'm talking the culture now hates you because and that's also a double entendre on state of the culture, which is a show that was hosted by joe budden, and yes, and we know, joe budden and drake's relationship probably isn't the best- yeah, but you know I'm saying so, while he did all that and put double and triple entendres and everything in there and he had that type of substance and lyrical uh uh exercise and you know what I'm saying and ability and things like that, it's just, bro, you didn't tell me anything, I didn't know.
Speaker 1:There was nothing shocking about it. So when I remember, when I first heard hit him up even though you might not remember too many lyrics of the song, just hearing that's why I fucked your fat mother, you know, just hearing that you were like, oh my God, this is where it's going. And then he started doing the mob deep thing and everything like that and you were just like, oh my God, this is what it is. So for me, hearing kendrick kind of pop shot drake this whole time was just like it was as great as the technique was, the execution, to me, was lacking but you also got or sorry, I got something to say go ahead different error, different time yeah back then didn't have social media to pretty much put all the information for you.
Speaker 4:So Kendrick is using what everybody else do know, but then he put it on pretty much on wax. Why didn't Drake do that? Why didn't J Cole didn't do that this era? Because you said again I know you're referencing the Tupac situation or whatever, but again we didn't know about that until we heard it on wax right?
Speaker 1:Yes, but what I'm saying is Kendrick's doing it too, because Kendrick said it Don't tell lies about me, I won't tell truth about you, so obviously you know something. Say it.
Speaker 5:Okay, let's not do this whole little.
Speaker 1:I know something you don't know. It's so childish I want to see. But I know something you don't know, it's so childish.
Speaker 3:I want to see. But he also said he also said I might hit you with the back to back. So the which which?
Speaker 1:he might be dropping, so maybe he might be doing that later, so, and that might be what I'm waiting for.
Speaker 2:But but I think the other thing to remember is like the Biggie Tupac situation. I mean, that was a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 3:It got really intense over the faith evidence, over that and then, and then some people might have known that he fucked biggie's bitch, just that it wasn't. It wasn't you know. So it's kind of like this story there's some people that don't know about this trick thing people been doing radio interviews and there's been video cassette interviews for the longest.
Speaker 1:So if somebody wanted to put that information out, they could have put that information out it was but the way information flowed back then is not the same way it flows
Speaker 4:here, Okay, but still, let's get this tightened up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but still, the idea behind it for me is like I said, all this is great, he did a great job, everything like that. He just was was lacking the content.
Speaker 3:You're just saying tell me something I don't know yes, tell me something I don't know.
Speaker 1:Tell me something shocking. Tell me something to make me go. Oh, there was no, the song was funnier to any. I laughed more than I said oh in the song, when he was the part about sexy, red and right. Y'all see too bad bitch I. I was cracking up. That was funny, but I think. So you're saying go for the jugular.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:If you are going to be in a rap battle, you got to go for the jugular. But my overall thought is we are in a situation where we haven't seen this since Prince and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We have a situation where we have Kendrick, who's the artistic one, who's Prince? Yeah where we have Kendrick, who's the artistic one, who's Prince, and we have the poppy one in Drake, who's Michael Jackson. Mj was artistic.
Speaker 3:I don't know what y'all talking about. No, no, no Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold on, Hold on. Let me get this point out there.
Speaker 3:I mean not compared to Prince, of course, but he was artistic though.
Speaker 1:Now, that's the point I'm trying to make, because it wasn't.
Speaker 3:Don't call MJ and Drake in the same sense. Bro, we have Bro Swank.
Speaker 5:Swank look at me, in my eyes, brother.
Speaker 1:We are both African. We love Michael Jackson the same way. He made Liberian Girl. Alright, okay, please understand what I'm saying here. It was how Prince looked at artistry. It's what he looked at Michael Jackson as completely lower than him. There's a story of Prince seeing Michael Jackson at a club or something.
Speaker 5:They had beef and he played the guitar at him, type shit.
Speaker 1:So I think that this is the situation that we have, where Kendrick has hit a point where he's like yo, I'm nice, I'm artistic, I do all of this. You've heard my albums. Now look at this guy. All he does is make y'all dance, and he makes y'all sing along or whatever. Why do y'all like him so much? I'm so much better than him.
Speaker 4:He does put out numbers, though Drake does put out numbers.
Speaker 1:And so did Mike, and Mike put out numbers too, and that's what I'm saying, and I'm not saying that's easy, jack is an entertainer just like Mike.
Speaker 3:Mike is too gifted to put. Yeah, I hate the fact that you guys are putting Mike in.
Speaker 4:I'm not boxing.
Speaker 3:Mike up, I'm rolling in his grave right now.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about how.
Speaker 4:Prince saw it. That's all I'm talking about. What did you?
Speaker 6:guys say I'm just saying that Michael Jackson is so talented you can't put him in a box to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's hard to compare. Hard to compare.
Speaker 6:Too many people I know Especially not to.
Speaker 1:Drake knows, this guy is insanely talented. I'm just comparing.
Speaker 3:I got you. I know what you mean. I hear what you're saying, Ace. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2:The thing that might be the reason why, you know, kendrick had that line like don't make me say what I know, and he didn't say it, which is kind of, like you know, kind of teasing, for that listener is also, like you know, like again, we maybe, maybe kendrick and his team, for you know, political or financial reasons, you know just the politics of it don't want to say it because that's going to have detrimental things on the industry or Drake's career. And again, like you said, drake has numbers, it's not in the label's interest to have him fall off a bit.
Speaker 1:It could probably start like a PDD thing, then don't bring it up.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Who knows what it is? We're not we're not saying Kendrick shouldn't have mentioned that he knows something at all.
Speaker 1:Yes, If you're not going to say it or you can't say it, then why bring it up? That's like literally having a gun on you and showing people your gun, but you will not pull it yeah like don't fuck with me, type shit.
Speaker 3:He didn't pull it out, he's just showing you, letting you know that he got that ammo.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly, but don't mess with me what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1:But what I'm saying is Kendrick's making it look like he's not going to pull it. He's just like I'm trying to scare you, but I'm not going to pull it.
Speaker 3:Maybe he's just waiting for Drake. He's waiting for Drake's response. I might get back to that.
Speaker 1:See, now look.
Speaker 3:Now you look interested.
Speaker 2:Now you look interested. Look at your face. The next week we'll talk about this more.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, speaking of different combos and bullshit, oh oh, let's talk about. What had happened was of Ryan Garcia getting popped for being for cheating. They say he's cheating because one, he was overweight three pounds in the fight and he was thinking that he's the best fighter ever.
Speaker 1:That's what casuals are saying.
Speaker 4:Casuals.
Speaker 3:Some casuals and some— that's why we're calling them not casuals.
Speaker 1:No, that's what people are saying, that's what the experts, some experts are saying, because some experts are saying that Devin Haney actually came into that fight heavier than Ryan Garcia, even though Ryan Garcia missed weight by three pounds. But Devin Haney came into the fight. When they hit the ring, haney was heavier, so the three pounds is null and void.
Speaker 4:But again, at the end of the day we talked about this many podcasts before you weigh in as a professional, you have to weigh in like you're supposed to be a professional. I'm not saying that After that we don't know what happens. It happens to you Any fighter. After you weigh in, you can gain 10, 15 pounds, you can eat an elephant and come back. Yeah, exactly, it's your performance-wise, how you carry yourself in your fight. That, and also being on some kind of enhancement, that's the cheating. That's the cheating part of the thing. They really tested him. He actually did. He got on TikTok or whatever, saying that you know, I'm not a cheater. Um, I mean, ryan garcia said this I'm not a cheater, I never cheat yeah, because you're a cheater.
Speaker 4:We definitely know hey, shut your mouth, shut your mouth just playing.
Speaker 1:But um.
Speaker 4:So what it is is like he, he comes out there but there's literally studies and again, this is what they do, like they test yourself and it happened in UFC too Like there's people who fought one and whatever, and they come back to test the negative, positive from sorry, positive of all these things, and they have to take away that belt.
Speaker 2:Like the Lance Armstrong.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but the thing about it is, this is what's crazy. Because if you're, you know you took some enhancement, even for oxygen or whatever. There's a system that is always tested. It's going to be caught. You're going to be caught some way. Somehow it's going to be brought back out. And he still stands by this. He's not cheating. They're going to go, of course, going to go to a committee and pretty much just like anything. Why risk that? If you this is your, your name, especially in boxing, because boxing is literally your name holds weight of going forward to make big money, if you're cheating by doing that, you will get tossed in like why would I go against this cheater? You know saying especially ryan garcia has been on, he was on the thread anyways by that Cause he wasn't pulling numbers before, can I?
Speaker 3:can I ask you a question real quick, um not to cut you off, so I know in in in soccer football right, um, what's his name?
Speaker 4:Paul football.
Speaker 3:American football soccer.
Speaker 1:You started he was like I can't disrespect my people. No, it's not.
Speaker 4:You know. American listeners are here. They're like football. If you're in Rome, you act like the Romans.
Speaker 3:So Paul Pogba, he used to play for Juventus, right, and he got caught with I don't know taking a substance or whatever. He got banned for, I believe, four or five years. That's what happened this time. So now in football, right, right. So in in boxing, what kind of like? What kind of punishment like I mean other than you know, taking your title away from you, like, do they lose money? Do they get banned for, like, an extended period of?
Speaker 3:time not get booked anymore are you trying to like what's the punishment, like what's all of all of it, all of it.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, it can be all of that, but politics depends. Remember they have canelo test positive. He claimed it was, uh, that bad mexican beef, mexican beef, whatever it was.
Speaker 4:And speaking, he's about to fight this weekend too.
Speaker 3:They didn't do anything to him. Sorry, they what like. What was the punishment like?
Speaker 6:wasn't much anything. I think they kept them out, maybe for a little bit, but wasn't much. So it really depends on your star power, who you are, all of that yeah how far they really go with it.
Speaker 6:Some people get blasted and then some people get the slap on the wrist and then they're, they're back. So it's hard to know. I think the question is here also is that I don't know if it was mandatory, right. So sometimes the testing is mandatory and then you kind of know, and then sometimes it's voluntary this is voluntary, wasn't this voluntary? I think this is voluntary, which is another piece that makes it kind of confusing, like if you chose to be tested, then what exactly did you take, or knowingly, or not.
Speaker 3:Do we know the substance? Do we know what substance he got caught taking?
Speaker 6:yeah, they have a list of them. There's at least three to four of them. Supposedly. The first one I think one of us alluded to is one that's not even really connected to the normal ped stuff. Yeah, and that's what doesn't, you know, make sense like that. The first sample was like so why would you take it's banned, but it's not say banned for this reason, so why would you do that?
Speaker 1:So it just creates confusion and actually I'm sorry cut you off, but I did look that one up, that one. I forget what it's called at this point, but yeah, something like that, but it's. It's basically it helps with rehydration, so you. So that's why he was taking it. You looked at it. When I looked at it, it basically said it didn't help for muscle strength enhancement or anything like that. It just helped that you like. Basically you didn't lose muscle while, I guess, you were training or while you were cutting weight. So that's why he got hit with it. When he got hit with it, because you get tested. If I'm correct, you get tested even before the fight. Yeah, before that fight you get tested a couple of times.
Speaker 6:Right, there are a bunch of samples, and this is another reason, for example, since we're going to talk about how boxing was one of the questions. This is why Pacquiao sort of has an asterisk with some people, because he refused testing and his reasoning was because he doesn't like needles, smart guy.
Speaker 2:I mean shit. I don't like needles.
Speaker 1:With tattoos.
Speaker 3:I mean, there are other ways to make tattoos. You don't have to do needles.
Speaker 6:But still, you know, when you say yourself you're a professional fighter, you get your face Devils advocate.
Speaker 6:But you're afraid of a needle, so you're not doing that and therefore now people are wondering, like so wait a minute, how is it that you went from 122 and you can knock out a guy at 160 pounds? Like how does that physically happen? Some people are kind of curious about it, so it's an asterisk. Now what's going to happen with Ryan? It's going to be very interesting. Why? Because he's very popular, yeah. So is he going to get a slap in the wrist? He's already called out Trump.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly you.
Speaker 6:You don't like me because you don't like Trump. And I was with Trump because he was trying to show Cody Cody what the heck is it? Huffington how to throw a hook and Cody's a clown. So it's like oh, once you see Cody, you're going to see the Trumpsters and the rest of them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Like after he won he was doing this like his, his, I guess in front of Trump and then like vote for Trump 2024. And I was like, yeah, clown.
Speaker 1:He's selling this. Yeah, he's selling this.
Speaker 4:He's selling it, but if this, this is going to mess him up, if he actually is caught, Potentially, potentially, and you know what you know we talked about last time.
Speaker 6:Devin Haney's father, bill, has a little bit of a hole, so he might end up making something. Now let's not pretend that, even though we have this situation, that Ryan can't punch yeah, exactly. And let's not pretend that Devin Haney has an iron jaw, right, linares, loma, all these people actually hurt him, stunned him, who are lighter weight and have less power than Ryan. So those are legitimate smashes to the face. And guess what? You did stupid stuff in order to get punched in the face.
Speaker 4:No, no, that's true, but if it's enhanced by some kind of, that's like, like you said, if I put a five pound weight in my hand, regardless of five pounds, that's five pounds with a powerful punch that you have.
Speaker 6:That's what it's trying to figure out. Right, we're trying to figure it out. But if you have a five-pound weight in your hand and you punch me in the face and you knock me out, guess what If I have an eggshell jaw, that you could have knocked me out with your finger?
Speaker 4:now the question is so you think he had an eggshell jaw?
Speaker 6:regardless, he's been hurt many times and saved so the question is the first round of effect.
Speaker 4:Has he ever been knocked down in his first round?
Speaker 6:I have to look back in the fights but he's been stumbling in his ring after getting punched in the face by a single shot when the guy was not a knockout.
Speaker 4:I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong, but I'm saying like, if you look at the numbers, it's kind of weird that the first round that he has I mean a boxer who's a professional to take the first punch, to be like what the hell, and he gets staggered. That's the thing about it. They're trying to question, like he's not normally that kind until later rounds. Right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6:Well you have to then say well, has Ryan knocked out people first round or early? No, he has, he has. He has hurt people early, Not knocked out cold, but he's hurt people early. Yes, he has Body shot all drill.
Speaker 1:So we're saying that Ryan has the power.
Speaker 4:He has the power, haney didn't get knocked out cold either. No, he didn't, but he got knocked down on the first.
Speaker 6:It was a clean shot.
Speaker 4:They called it. It was a knockdown.
Speaker 2:As a non-boxer or as a non-box fan. Following this, I do find it interesting to hear about how the ramifications aren't clearly spelled out. Some leagues will have a certain penalty for different things, but the politics of it and who you are, obviously, what your booking capacity is, that's big and important. I remember Tyson damn near bit off a dude's ear and that didn't seem to really end him. I mean, it hurt him probably, but he's still around.
Speaker 6:Like I said, he's been in jail and he's popular right now, yeah, so it takes a lot.
Speaker 4:Like A-Train said, it is a popularity vote. I mean, again, it brings numbers, regardless of what it is. I mean I don't want to bring up the Trump situation because he's going through trial, he's still going to probably be the president, because it's not typical, hey, man, let's, let's not speak negativity into the air, but I'm telling you have to don't even don't even put that sentence together again.
Speaker 3:Okay whose man is this hey guess what?
Speaker 4:guess what you have to. It's reality. It's reality, I'm moving to brazil with bruno.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you i'm'm moving back to Nigeria.
Speaker 4:Everybody says it, but who other Republican is going to be him?
Speaker 1:You mean a Democrat?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think I think at this point he's the Republican unless he can get locked up before. Exactly so. Like going forward, there's no threat for him to be. It's closer to 50-50 if it goes to Democrat right.
Speaker 2:Aliens, if you're out there, just take them. We don't want them, just take them. Do what you're probing, do whatever you want. Learn whatever you need.
Speaker 1:Just take them.
Speaker 4:We don't want them. Okay, alright, we're going to go there. Don't shake your head, we're not doing politics.
Speaker 3:Bro, don't get me started. We can, but.
Speaker 4:I refrain from it. I'm not trying to let Ace cook on this one, not on this one.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to cook on this one.
Speaker 4:We will talk about this later, but coming up is a Canelo fight is also coming up this weekend. Right, right, adrian, I think Absolutely I'll let you guys sauce that out, but what?
Speaker 6:makes it interesting is that we're all about beefs.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, this is beef.
Speaker 6:If you could actually go and show a little bit of Delahoya representing Mungia the opponent. He has serious beef with Canelo because Canelo's part of Golden Boy. So since he cut from him and basically cut all of them, I mean that's a lot of money that golden boy lost when canelo left and basically their uh, what do you call weigh-in?
Speaker 4:yeah, have you heard about that?
Speaker 5:it went completely bananas when you think that the fighters would be against each other.
Speaker 6:Instead, they began dropping big bombs with each other, like you know what. So even delahoy had yes, I was in rehab, yes, I did all these things. I had mental problems.
Speaker 4:But Golden Boy made you Respect my name. He said respect my name, man. They went personal he said yo respect my name.
Speaker 2:Put some respect on it.
Speaker 4:And yo Canelo and his Mexicans. He's like fuck you, you know what's so interesting.
Speaker 5:Someone said to me and made me laugh really loud. He said you know what canelo when you bring the mic to him? He's spanish, he speaks spanish, he has only two words of english.
Speaker 6:Once he gets angry, he knows no spanish curse you, you, you fuck you english, all english curse words.
Speaker 4:It was the like by the bitch, but you gotta think that has to be a little bit strategic, no seriously.
Speaker 1:Seriously, you got to think about it, Because at that time he could say all the cuss words he want and his Spanish-speaking audience would never hear him cuss.
Speaker 2:That's true. You know what I'm saying. Well, it's like that viral video of the two Indian guys and one of them cuts the other guy off in traffic. And they're like fuck you, you bloody bastard, you fuck you fuck you. And they just the same insult back and forth.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they cut off, like different customers. So that's how I think this is going to be kind of like and I think, like you said, it might be a strategic way of promoting this fight, because, again, nobody really knew about this fight like that. It wasn't promoted to be a good big fight for Canelo but no, it is, it is.
Speaker 6:It's a bit for boxing heads. It is a big fight.
Speaker 6:Yeah for a couple of reasons. One is Canelo Good, bad beef, not beef. He lost to be of all. Be of all is six feet tall. He fought be of all. At what weight was light heavyweight right, can I know? For some reason, I don't know where you, how you went weight? It was light heavyweight right, canelo. For some reason, I don't know how you went from 154 to light heavyweight right. That's a hundred, and what is it? A hundred and six, 175 pounds? How do you go that far up? Nobody does that.
Speaker 6:But here's the thing. Mungia doesn't look at it, but I've worked as he was one of my opponents. Manjia doesn't look at it, but I've worked as with. He was one of my opponents back in the day. I'll leave it at that. Manjia is six feet tall. He don't look it, but he's six feet tall. So you imagine you're fighting a guy who probably, going back to the other conversation on fight night might be a light heavyweight when he steps in there. So you don't know what's going to happen in on fight night. Might be a light heavyweight when he steps in there. So you don't know what's going to happen in this fight With all the skill set, you'll say to yourself you know what I know?
Speaker 4:Canelo's going to win because he does that and the other he has good footwork and whatever, but does he have knockout power to knock a bigger guy?
Speaker 6:you're going to say when G has knocked out? Guys, I didn't expect him to knock out because he doesn't look as scary or as tough as he is, and just like some people may have thought twice about B-Vol because he's so straight up and down, no special effects type of fighter, guess what?
Speaker 4:This dude is as big as him. We ain't going to do no predictions.
Speaker 1:We're not going to do anything, but I'm looking forward to finding out who won. Yeah, because y'all don't take your shots, that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's crazy. Alright, any hope, so I Anything else. I think we're good for tonight. I think I love this conversation.
Speaker 1:Any plans for this weekend, gentlemen?
Speaker 6:Can I? Can I say something? Absolutely yes, you may okay'd like to put a big shout out to our friend Francis Ngannou. Oh yeah, His son is 15 months old and for those people who know about kids or have kids or whatever it is. He has said basically what am. I doing this for Losing this child 18 months right 15.
Speaker 6:He was like I child. To him it was 18 months, 18 months, right, 15. 15 months. He was like I'm done, oh damn, 15 months, like he may quit. Because he was just like everything that I do is for my future is now for A the future, but now the future is solidified by having a child. So you felt it when he responded that way. You're like man, I don't even know where this guy, because when you think about it, here's the thing you were treated badly by the UFC. You found your own way. You found a way to make money, even though you got knocked out against Anthony Joshua. You're now 20 million. How many million dollars that you made in the last two fights? Right, fury and Joshua, you have a son. You probably thought when this kid was born, my life.
Speaker 5:Is now here.
Speaker 6:Yeah, and all of a sudden this happens, so you know he's crushed. It's crazy.
Speaker 4:That's sad, bro. It's sad.
Speaker 1:Shout out to him, bro Micah Nolans, to his family.
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, damn.
Speaker 2:That's really rough.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know, like I said, I don't know the devil is working overtime this period. Imagine, like you said, and this might just take away that whole light, that whole fire in him as far as his career is concerned. I think he actually said it.
Speaker 4:I think he actually said it in Twitter, Like I think, why am I doing this? Like this is, you might not see the same Ngani again Like he has no fire. No, he has no like. He's like done like he feels like I shouldn't be doing this thing because it's showing that you know something like that. He said well, why.
Speaker 2:I mean selfishly, because of course he's an amazing athlete I want to see him fight again Right Um compete again and just fight whatever he does, I want to see him again Top level Um but at all the time he needs, yes, oh yeah, hopefully this is just a moment in time for him and, you know, with the right support, and you know he can, you know, find himself and hopefully find that that light again and fire, but again, yeah, if, if he it is, you know his call for him and his family.
Speaker 3:So all right, yeah, and then as parents man, you don't. No parent ever wants to bury their kid yeah, yeah, definitely you know anybody else that's. That's a huge one.
Speaker 1:Nah.
Speaker 3:Our condolences to his family man, I'm good, y'all good, I mean like I said, anything Dang we just going to drop this bomb on us now. That looks like anything for this weekend.
Speaker 4:I mean not to maybe lighten it, but anything for this weekend, for y'all, I was going to hit the streets but maybe I mean this dude over here with a tank top on suns out, guns out. I'm in the gym for a reason Face ass Made for the streets. I'm made for the streets, all right.
Speaker 3:But yo, eagle, am I in the streets? No, I'm not. I'll let you know.
Speaker 4:I'll let you know Anybody else I?
Speaker 1:know.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, y'all know me, bro, daddy anything, I'll be in the studio working on some music, and then Bruno and I we just had our. I guess last week was five months since we've actually been together Five years actually.
Speaker 3:Sorry, sorry, sorry, I was tripping, tripping.
Speaker 2:Five years since we've been together. So we're going to do a little outing and just hang out on Saturday and chill.
Speaker 3:Happy anniversary, sir. Congrats to you guys. Man, Appreciate it.
Speaker 4:You going to New York? No, no, new York, he always goes to New York. That's what he does on the weekends.
Speaker 6:We got a camp going so not this week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I might be in the studio too. I think that's what it's called now these days, this weekend, this guy Afro beats. I'm going to be cooking up some beats, Afro guy.
Speaker 2:Afro guy. Let me hear it, man, I'll drop some bars to it. You know, Let me hear it.
Speaker 1:Well, shout out to y'all. Hopefully we do better next time.
Speaker 2:Thanks you guys. Peace, Peace Cheers.