Absolute DMV
Absolute DMV
R.I.P. Evan Cablayan and the Finish of the RAP Beef. Ramaswamy and Ann Coulter ‘Hindu business’
As we raise our glasses in tribute to a fallen comrade, this episode is a raw testament to Evan, a soul taken too soon from the beating heart of DC's mixology community. Unraveling the threads of a tragedy born from domestic violence, we confront the rippling effects of such loss - from the vacuum it creates in a once vibrant scene to the children left grappling with a new, harsh reality.
Yet, amidst the somber reflections, we pivot to the pulsating world of hip-hop, where beats and bars clash in the timeless tradition of the diss track. Metro Boomin's "BBL Drizzy Diss Beat" becomes our soundtrack as we dissect its cultural significance, stretching from the legacy of old-school rivalries to the current Kendrick vs. Drake saga. With a keen ear for the evolution of hip-hop and a look at how celebrities navigate the minefield of race and politics, from Drake to Ann Coulter, we peel back the curtain on the spectacle of maintaining relevance in an unforgiving public sphere.
Closing on a note as chaotic as DC's own streets, we share tales of navigating the city's paradox—a melting pot of protests and privilege, activism, and opulence. It's an unfiltered snapshot of a society at a crossroads, where the glitzy veneer of a gala can be just a block away from the raw energy of civil unrest. With a blend of gravity and humor, we sign off, hopeful yet vigilant, acknowledging the work that lies ahead - with perhaps just a touch of jest aimed squarely at Trump. Join us for this emotional mosaic, where every piece tells a story of where we are, and where we need to go.
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Absolute DMV Podcast. It's your man, ace Boogie. I'm here with a few good guys. I'm here with my man, mark.
Speaker 2:Hey, what's going on, y'all.
Speaker 1:A-Train.
Speaker 3:Don't want none won't be nothing.
Speaker 1:Ego the boys. Yo, you know what's going on, gentlemen, how y'all doing, how y'all been, man it's been good.
Speaker 4:It's been good out here, but you know, I have something to say. I got to say RIP to one of the good people that just passed away. Unfortunately, like, he passed away really bad. He was murdered and it was a situation that you know, of course, a lot of people are dealing with Like so he passed by. He's dating somebody that's going through a divorce. The ex-husband didn't like it, of course.
Speaker 1:You know.
Speaker 4:He of course here to support his lady and help put, I guess, the divorce was finalized.
Speaker 4:He helped to get him out of the house and the thing about it is when he was doing that, the guy didn't like it and shot him, shot her, wow, and then shot himself, of course, because, because he knew after that it's a wrap, right, and then, damn, the kids were in the house. But that's unfortunate and it's crazy because, like, if any parent, the first thing is to protect your kids, not sure, go through the jealousy or whatever, but if I, I don't think anybody deserves to get killed, even if I talk shit or whatever, but I don't think anybody deserves to get killed, even if I talk shit or whatever, I don't know, unless I put hands on you, there's no reason for you to murder. You know what I'm saying? I don't care how much shit I talk or whatever, but I think that's what happened. He was talking shit and of course, the dude he's a big dude, you know he's probably like threatening, talking or whatever, and the guy's just like you know what? I don't like you. Anyways, I'm going to kill everybody.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's messed up because I honestly am one to believe that if a woman doesn't want you anymore, just leave her alone.
Speaker 4:Pretty much yeah.
Speaker 1:Nice and simple. I mean, if that is the mother of your children, then of course you guys are going to have to have some sort of interaction.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But if you really can't have an interaction with her, then you're going to have to do it through the courts or you're going to have to do it through some sort of mediation. I mean, these are things that you have to do if you want a relationship with your children, if you still want to remain in your children's life, even though you don't want to have anything to do with the mother of your children.
Speaker 4:Well, that's the most adult thing to do. I mean to me.
Speaker 1:I would think that would be the easiest thing to do, because you murder someone, then you murder your children's mother, and then you do the same to yourself. Now the kids have no one I mean they have grandparents maybe that type, but yeah, it's just could be foster care yeah, or it could be foster care, which is, and I mean, pretty much worst case scenario, I guess, other than being homeless.
Speaker 4:But that's the deal. Is that like that's yeah, that's a selfish kind of?
Speaker 2:thought. It almost seems like again just for an outsider hearing about this, he wasn't thinking, he just had one of those snap moments and just snapped.
Speaker 4:No, it's not like they just divorced. Do you know what I'm saying? It might have been a thought for a while. I can't. This is the situation I can't deal with. And the fact to go out, you already have a gun on you. It's not like. It's not like like the guy came with a gun in the army, like he came to move you out of a house that you're supposed to be out. You already had and you had your gun on you. You're already ready. You're ready to do it.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying I mean, technically it was the house he lived in, so the gun was already there. If he was there, well, yeah, okay. So you know, to a certain extent I don't know how that works out.
Speaker 4:I don't know the Dello. It was in Delaware. Um, yeah, I'm not familiar with Delaware gun laws either. Yeah, as I said outside of DM, he's actually a DC mixologist. He's a bartender. He did this thing called, I guess, adult Capri Suns pretty much liquor in a pouch, or whatever.
Speaker 2:I've had some of those. They're awesome.
Speaker 4:They're awesome, right, and he had a good following. I mean, he's a great warrior soul, Like if you met him, you'd think that he'll literally rip his shirt off his back to give it to you. Whatever, of course, you cross him right, but I just want to give RIP to him and, if anybody else is listening, go to his page or whatever, and say some love or whatever to his family, friends and family.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you want to say his name oh yeah, I just know evan.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna call him evan. I don't know his last name. I couldn't look at his last name, but evan rip to evan yeah, rip to evan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hopefully wishing the best for his kids and his family yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4:I mean, it's not. It wasn't his kids, though, but it was her kids, her kids, yeah so I mean just the kids in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kids in general.
Speaker 4:But you know the other, no kids, fuck that motherfucker. I'm so pissed because it's like, really like that's like the most cowardly way to do your life yeah, you know I'm saying, but think about the trauma that you're imprinting on on your own kids.
Speaker 2:They were his kids, I'm assuming yeah, yeah so imagine till they're gonna probably be the ones who are going to discover the situation first.
Speaker 4:Oh no, of course I'm sure that— how horrible that must be. It's on the news it happened during daylight, during the day, so it's not like it was at nighttime. They were sleeping.
Speaker 1:Evan was just trying to be a peacekeeper, basically, or at least we want to hope.
Speaker 4:Yeah well, hope, peacekeeper. But you know, it's his lady, it's his girl.
Speaker 2:Protective.
Speaker 4:I'm sure he was thinking about marrying her after the situation was passed and then this is a girl, so the fact that he left DC to move to Delaware for her speaks volumes. Rip to Evan. Rip to Evan. Let's go in a little lighter note.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'm sorry, I have one more RIp. Oh okay, oh my bad, my bad well, yeah, rip to the boy, the sixth god, who aubrey oh hey man, look, that mom got killed a couple times. But hey man, look, I'm, I'm one of the believers that he didn't get killed, killed, killed. But as I walk around and, I repeat, sing to myself, they're not like us, they're not like us, they're not like us I just be like, damn, yeah, he might have. Yeah, he definitely lost this one. It's a definitive loss.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I don't think he killed him, but it's definitely a definitive loss well, I'll just say the waves that all this is making, the accusations and the fact that you know no one there's, you know there's no like concrete receipts that we've seen explicitly. Yet there's been some messages, some dms, some like older tweets that are definitely sus, and then a lot of sort of you know, you know circumstantial sort of stuff that all kind of goes along with what kendrick is saying. It's not a good look. I think also the fact that when drake did reply to this, he was very much on the defensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that also kind of is like all right, so you're doing damage control, you're trying to cover or hide whatever is there. You know you're not, you know it's like okay, that's again makes us think that there's something more there, when, even if there isn't, that's you know the wrong angle to take, because it's like smoke, there's fire, you know, don't even address it, you know whatever. But um, yeah, I took the time and I listened to the entire you, there should be a, an album about this. There's enough diss tracks to do an EP at this point.
Speaker 1:I was going to say that, excuse me If you take everything. Yeah, like you take everything, first Person Shooter and Onward. No, actually take, I'm not even talking about stuff from Drake. Take everything from Drake away. They have an EP against Drake.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Just simply Kendrick's three, four songs, ross's song Pusha T Well, not even Pusha T, because that was the last time, or did he release a new one?
Speaker 2:No, I was just saying like if you wanted to include all the disses.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. You could have an LP at that point. Oh yeah, you could have. Yeah, then you could have a full. You got Meeks, you got.
Speaker 2:Pusha T's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean. To me, though, this is a very interesting situation, because I feel like we've never seen this in hip-hop.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:This is the first time I've seen an unpopularity contest or an unpopularity situation, because every other situation, like 50 and Ja, would probably be the closest, but I think it was 50 being the new artist, he was gaining popularity, so it wasn't really about Ja becoming unpopular, it was about 50 becoming more popular than Ja both popular and for drake a month ago to have been untouchable, to now anything that kendrick says we believe well, the fact that the I don't know I did you guys see that news clip about the, the guy who was like trying to introduce this and he said we have, you know, some new thing, a latest diss, you know, leveled against the raper drake, I mean rapper, I guess it was like dude
Speaker 3:like people are uh.
Speaker 2:Are this the waves on social media about that and other allegations?
Speaker 4:I'm surprised he didn't get sued. Who? Yo that's um, yeah, that's literally. That's crazy, it is it is.
Speaker 1:I mean, and, like I said, that's why it's so crazy to me, because, yes, I've seen the videos and I can't defend Drake on some of these things that he was doing and some of the things that he was saying. I'm not trying to defend Drake, I just think it's interesting that, like I said, a month ago, you really couldn't say nothing bad about Drake, but now all these things that, honestly, we did already know Drake is a corny rich raised at least he's an entertainer.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying, so, but it's.
Speaker 3:Weird, it's unequivocal refuting yeah.
Speaker 1:But no Right.
Speaker 3:There's no absolute no, you know, people do that, even if they're lying to their teeth.
Speaker 1:they're like absolute no, they have that kind of balls yeah he didn't and that's even the thing he he, I mean he's flat out said I didn't do it, but he was saying it in a weird way. Yeah, and that song is. Yeah, that song is kind of weird, and even you know that that song now has the most dislikes on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:The thing that's crazy is he took, like, in my opinion, the worst defense, because he was saying if I did this stuff, don't you think I would be caught so fast because of how famous I am? But it's like dude, like what? But look at, like Epstein, look at, you know, like Diddy, Bill Cosby, like all these people were major. Weinstein, these people were all major and they were all doing shit allegedly for a long time, yes, and no one got caught. And, at the same time, everyone knew. So, like you are putting yourself in the category of the exact people that you don't want to be associated with.
Speaker 1:And that's your defense.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Not unequivocal.
Speaker 1:Not unequivocal with and that's your defense and that, yeah, that's my equivocal exactly reputation he got murdered exactly. Yeah, I mean you, hey, that's your opinion, that's your opinion. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:I don't it's not my opinion. Okay, it's my opinion, but, excuse me, the numbers speak the moment. Like yo, he has bangers in a club. They're playing kendrick's diss tracks on the club level, even though I know Drake came out with some. They're saying that his stuffs are bangers. That's automatically adding to his stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, absolutely, because the fact that you can play those songs in the club is wild. But what's even wilder to me is when you actually this is how I know people don't listen to lyrics anymore, because how are you gonna party to certified lover boy, certified pedophiles in the club? Like how are you gonna party to that? And people are literally partying to that. So I'm just like like it's a, it's a definite loss for drake.
Speaker 4:but it's, it's just hip-hop for the hip yes, for the hip. This whole beef is Yo?
Speaker 1:no, but this whole beef is unprecedented.
Speaker 2:It's like I saw a video where there's a DJ and he's spinning it in the club and he goes Certified lover boy. And the DJ comes on the mic. He's like Certified pedophile.
Speaker 1:Exactly. How are we doing this in the club, bro? That doing this in the club, bro, that's crazy.
Speaker 4:So what about the track? What's it called?
Speaker 1:Metro Boomin'.
Speaker 4:The BBL yeah Metro.
Speaker 1:Boomin' dropped the. When have we ever seen a diss beat?
Speaker 2:in hip hop. That's it, and now everyone is coming out. It's crazy, it's genius marketing.
Speaker 4:It's dances. I mean it's ridiculous. I was like what the fuck is this BBL? It's like what the fuck is this BBL? It's like BBL's. What BBL?
Speaker 1:Drizzy. Yeah, what BBL Drizzy?
Speaker 4:Oh no, there's grandmothers singing this Because it's soulful, it ranges to everybody, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm about to look this shit up. It is yo the BBL Drizzy beat. It's a diss beat, bro. We've never had a diss beat in here like it's a diss beat, bro. We've never had a diss beat. Made some drums. All right, yeah, you took drake's advice and he's like I'm gonna make some drums.
Speaker 2:There you go and I'm gonna put that out there a little sample on it hashtag fry drake over this beat.
Speaker 1:You're welcome world and now every, every rapper's getting on it. Yeah, 10 grand, 20 grand, if you have the best one yeah, yeah, that's genius. So now, you got the whole world dissing drake like that's perfect marketing. But then Metro Boomin had some old tweets where he was saying some wild things about underage women, so even Should we play a little bit? Nah, I don't want to even play it. I mean, yeah, play it because it's funny Play it.
Speaker 3:Wasn't that like putting a contract on somebody? When you do that, like putting a contract, yeah, yeah, that's nice, it's sophisticated Put a hit on someone, yep.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Go ahead, man Yo, this is crazy.
Speaker 2:This could be like a soundtrack to almost any movie too.
Speaker 1:Exactly. It's funny because I hear more of it every time I hear it. This is like my first time hearing the whole thing. It's old school. Yeah, it's mad old school. Fast forward a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he comes in when the beat drops.
Speaker 1:That's it. I'm thicker than a snicker. I'm thicker than a snicker. I'm thicker than a snicker. I'm thicker than a ninja. I'm thicker than a snicker. It's crazy. These hamsters are my trophy. Maybe it ain't no.
Speaker 4:Yo.
Speaker 3:That's a Motown sound, it's so crazy.
Speaker 4:That's a sample right, but I think I don't even know If it's actually a track right.
Speaker 2:Oh, is this the sample? That's the sample. Okay, so that's the original sample. Where's the song come from?
Speaker 4:It came from King. His name is King Willison. I don't know that's an actual guy, it's a sample. That's a sample.
Speaker 2:That's the sample. And then Metro Boomin took that sample and made the beat.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let me find that.
Speaker 1:Hey, shout out to Metro.
Speaker 2:Because I thought that together no, it's actual from my album. So there's another artist from a while ago then who has a song called BBL Drizzy. So it's perfect, it's perfect. That's crazy Nowadays using that.
Speaker 1:Talk about 4-Shot. How do you make a song from that long ago called BBL when BBLs just became popular?
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I said, I'm thinking where is BBL? What the fuck I played the actual Metro Boomin one.
Speaker 1:Yeah Child's Fly. I mean it's just funny though, but yeah everything. These are the most disses between two rappers. So that's even a first in hip-hop the fact that Drake dropped, kendrick dropped right after him. That was a first in hip-hop.
Speaker 2:I was watching someone. I work in the educational field so I follow a lot of different educators and people like that and there's a classroom teacher who was discussing how, in her classroom teaching high school students, they're going from all being Drake fans to now all being Kendrick fans and she's seeing kids who have never paid attention in English or any type of language arts class dissecting these lyrics meticulously and finding all the double and triple entendres and it's like it's a great moment in hip-hop because it's transcending hip-hop and whatever the catalyst is, this beef in between it. It's a moment where everyone is paying attention and really I think it's. It's great for the culture because everyone is learning through what hip-hop can do, and Kendrick is a great vessel for that with his lyricism.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, you are actually connected with something like this, with your hip-hop and education, but honestly, this is another thing that I find interesting. I don't think all these people are Kendrick fans. Thing that I find interesting I don't think all these people are kendrick fans. I don't think, like all these people, after this dies down, are gonna go listen to pimple butterfly I don't think so, I think so, I think actually now he gained I think he's gained a lot a lot, I think.
Speaker 4:No, definitely gained his thing about is the drama that's happening right now. That wasn't about the beef. Now the beef since he's out, there is only Kendrick and Drake. He gained a lot more fans than he did before.
Speaker 1:The reason I disagree with you is because of how Kendrick moves. Now, if Kendrick is going to start dropping a lot more or more consistently— You'll find out in the future. No, no, and that's why I say if he starts dropping more consistently, like he changes the way he drops, then I'll agree with you or I'll change my mind.
Speaker 2:But if he goes back to dropping once every three years, well, he just dropped like eight records in a week, exactly which is, which is also what drake said your.
Speaker 1:Your fans should thank me because I finally made you rap, like you finally dissed.
Speaker 4:You finally dropped music but the thing about it, he didn't change the way he rapped because of this.
Speaker 1:Yes, he did well, these tracks that kendrick made, they are not typical kendrick track. No, no, no, no, no. They're beef tracks, but no I'm not talking about that. I'm talking. Not like us is not a typical. When have you ever heard something like this?
Speaker 2:euphoria is probably the closest one to kendrick's yeah, original content he changed he out drake drake?
Speaker 1:yeah, he made party songs. Well, and that's. He made songs that people were going to listen to and diss drake in the club.
Speaker 2:He took drake's strategy and used it against him and that's why initially I thought drake was going to win this beef, because I thought Kendrick lyricism wordplay, no match, for you know, Drake is no match for that. But Drake has the ability to create stuff like he did with the Meek Mill beat. Everyone was bumping back to back and that just it handed Meek Mill the L in that situation, but Kendrick did exactly the opposite. Drake has not been able to replicate something that is going to have DJs bumping it.
Speaker 1:What was the one song I forget? The push-up song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, push-up, he tried the push-ups was good, but he got bodied by the next one. And no one wants to listen to a response that has already been responded to and been bested in at that point it's like that's old news. I agree you need to be the final definitive letter. It's like every time someone puts a period on the sentence you got to start a whole new sentence. No one's going to go back and bump the last one.
Speaker 1:All right to wrap this up real quick. Yeah, exactly, Please. Calm down bro. Calm down bro.
Speaker 4:Calm down bro, calm down bro, are y'all done with this?
Speaker 2:One more part Are you done or is y'all done, hey Ego.
Speaker 1:Ego. Shut your ass up. Make some drums, nigga. I will keep making beats, but fuck this shit, damn. Wrap it up real quick. Wrap it up. What do y'all think Drake should do? Moving forward, nothing. Do you think he should just go away for?
Speaker 3:a little bit.
Speaker 4:He should just keep doing it, or should he? He should just go ahead, or what? What do you think?
Speaker 1:Keep, making babies. Calm down, bro. Calm down, no Go back to acting. Okay, go back to acting.
Speaker 4:I ain't mad at that, was he? No, that's back to acting. That's what he started, yeah.
Speaker 2:My honest opinion is I think that he's he should take a lesson from this that he is a a successful artist in the pop hip hop realm. He's not. He's not going to be able to compete with someone like, like drake or kendrick in the boom bap rap sort of sphere in terms of lyricism he's not a rapper I know whatever ghost writer using, that is is okay or not okay.
Speaker 2:Different people, different and opinions, even with ghost writers. Kendrick is on top and I think that ultimately he should, you know, reassess his, his, his, his, uh trajectory from here, from this point on, and stick to the success he's had he needs to keep working his waves.
Speaker 4:Stay on your lane basically that would drink new to you bro hey, he needs to upgrade his $20,000 bed.
Speaker 2:This is why it's so funny to me.
Speaker 1:I've never seen somebody, so I'm not talking about you directly, I've just never seen people so happy to see one man go down like this. Yes, this is crazy.
Speaker 2:I think the other thing too from a PR standpoint, he was too powerful.
Speaker 1:He was too powerful man, Jesus. No, think the other thing too, from a PR standpoint. He was too powerful, Too powerful man, jesus, no one man should have all that power. Huh Damn right, god damn no. But.
Speaker 4:I think he kept having all the bitches.
Speaker 1:Damn. You sound like Kendrick now. I hate the way you have all the bitches.
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 2:I do also think that Drake needs to have an age limit adjustment too. Moving forward.
Speaker 1:Hey man. Do we say that about Leo? Wow, do we say that about Leo? Leo? Who Leo DiCaprio?
Speaker 4:No, he's not. I've said that about Leo, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, we talked about that a couple episodes ago.
Speaker 1:I was just asking Do we say that about Leo?
Speaker 2:I say that about Tom Hanks, I say that about anybody, anybody, woody Allen, anybody who's I mean.
Speaker 1:Woody Allen Dayton is like no, I'm not even going to get into all that. He was weird.
Speaker 2:He dated his adopted daughter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I ain't going to get into all that.
Speaker 2:That was some extra weird. I ain't going to get into all that.
Speaker 1:Speaking of weird, you and A-Train were having a conversation. Yeah, this was entertaining, so I just Please continue this on my gentlemen.
Speaker 2:A-Train. Speaking of weird, you brought up the recent interaction with Ann Coulter where she was on. Who was it? What's his name? Vivek.
Speaker 3:Rajaswami, he's got that podcast. Yes, and Vivek was the presidential candidate who stepped away and I think he's siding with the Republican or GOP nominee, but I guess he still needs to have a voice, so he went on her, I think, podcast and Ann Coulter is the former girlfriend of JJ from Good Times. Is that right? Was it Jimmy Walker? Should I go there? I thought he was Jimmy Walker's girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Actually I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 3:I think it makes it complicated.
Speaker 2:I believe Just through that I can't fathom that anyone would want to date a person like her, so it never even entered my mind, is it Rihanna? She's so repulsive, Her whole personality her beliefs.
Speaker 4:Are you talking about her character name or actual her name, the one off of Good Times? No, we're talking about Jimmy Walker. Oh, you're talking about Jimmy Walker. Oh, you're talking about Jimmy Walker. I thought you were talking about a girl. You're talking about Jimmy JJ. Oh, my bad, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Hey, you're talking about Jimmy JJ Walker man, oh, my bad, I'm out of here. Man cut me off. God damn yeah you were hey pour a drink.
Speaker 2:I mean drink, okay, let's get back to this back. Sorry, yeah, but no, uh, but yeah, the crazy thing about that. Anyway, ann coulter, uh, if you're not hip, she's a, uh, pale, pigmented, racist woman. Uh, just horrible personality, tell me how you feel uh, just uh, just one of the I'd say pigmented, though just just a wrinkly old, pale pigmented Piece of filth Inside and out.
Speaker 1:Let him cook.
Speaker 2:No, I mean she's a horrible racist Person and just there's not much else to say. I mean she's a Modern day Nazi, essentially White supremacist, horrible person.
Speaker 3:I love what you said before I would we hit record, she did open up the door to allow vivek, who we know is a person of color, though some would consider him conservative, some would consider is he.
Speaker 4:Is he a token? Is he a token?
Speaker 3:A token. I don't know if I'd call him a token, but he's a person of color and he's run. You know, attempted to run for president. He won the nomination. He wanted to get that nomination. He didn't.
Speaker 2:He was in there for a little bit in some of the debates, yep, you know. And again, I disagree with him on almost 95% of his stuff he did. He was one of the first people who came out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't agree 95% of the first people who came out. I don't agree. 95% of the time. It works all the time.
Speaker 1:Mark might have dropped a diss track. Yo, yo, man, I'm telling you I hate the way you talk, the way you think.
Speaker 2:But I will say he did come out very strong for Armenians when Artsakh was in trouble and one of the very few politicians who was in the debates for either side who really came out on the books.
Speaker 1:I've never seen a fuck him, but shout out to him, for this I've never seen that in my life.
Speaker 4:Fuck him, fuck him.
Speaker 2:That's the one thing that he had right.
Speaker 4:The one thing that he had right, then. Only time I like him. He's fucking with me. The one thing that he had right, yeah, then he came on this podcast and what happened.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, basically she kind of hands him a similar diss to what I just did, but in reverse. In reverse, she's like you know what? I agree with everything you're saying. You're totally right. She likes him. I like you, everything you're saying. But I won't vote for you because you're brown. Would she date him? Damn? Yeah, she told him flat out to his face. I won't vote for you because you're Indian.
Speaker 1:Damn hey. You know what, though? Sometimes you gotta appreciate overt racism.
Speaker 4:You just gotta appreciate it real.
Speaker 1:I mean, sometimes, bro, I would rather just know where I stand with somebody than somebody being fake in my face all the damn time. But let me ask this question.
Speaker 3:Is it because she was too brown? Is it because she was too Indian Like?
Speaker 1:why would she? Does she have some kind of?
Speaker 3:ideological reason why Different shades to brown.
Speaker 4:Different shades to brown. Yeah it's the family guy meme right there. Different shades to brown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the family guy meme right there Getting pulled over where the level is for. I'm giving you a ticket or you're going to jail.
Speaker 4:You're the Asian brown or you're the Well no, I mean honestly, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:There's the spectrum and even, like Jordan Peele touches on it in, Get Out, he has the Asian person in there and the group of white people who are sort of oppressing you know the black character and it's, you know, it's this different thing of like different minorities have been able to or been afforded certain types of semblances of white privilege by the party that you know, the you know system of white privilege. So it's kind of like, where does that line get drawn? And for Vivek and I would argue almost for Candace Owens, it's like you're in that circle of people who are perpetuating white supremacy and keeping this you know wheel of oppression rolling and they tolerate you because you're saying the same things. And then they're able to say, see, we're not racist. Look at that, at that. He's a. There's a black woman saying this. Oh, there's a person of color saying this. But then when it comes to like, oh well, could I be president even if I'm saying all the same things, like no, because you know, no, because you're not, you're not white enough.
Speaker 1:So it's like you know do you know how many white men are saying what you're saying, sir?
Speaker 3:sir, wow, yeah. So what was his response? I'm sure that he found some way to finagle her back so that he could be included in the group. He could be part of the team once again. Still nigga.
Speaker 2:So I'll be honest, I did not watch the entire interview. I watched the snippet where she said that and he did react in the moment. He looked disappointed, um, and then he put out a tweet afterwards. I didn't really see his rebuttal in the interview, but I saw the tweet that he put out and he basically said she did call me flat off. You know she wouldn't vote for me because I'm, because I'm brown, um, even though she agreed with me. But you know, he basically said like shout out to her for having the guts to speak her mind and I was like damn, that's some.
Speaker 1:What does that mean? That is what. That's some, that is what somebody who doesn't believe in racism says after they experience racism Yep, yep, or it's like I want to call you out, but I want to still be in the circle, Like don't push me out. If I say something about racism now, I'm a libtard, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's the illusion of inclusion, isn't?
Speaker 1:it Absolutely.
Speaker 3:He's part of that group, but he isn't really. But, he's going to continue this narrative, hoping to get some of the crumbs off the table.
Speaker 1:He's not brown, he's Vivek. You know, you know, almost like I'm not black emoji. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3:So where do you think he goes from here?
Speaker 1:Still nigga. He goes back home. That's where he goes.
Speaker 2:On to the next one. Yeah, he goes back home. Hopefully he does something meaningful and helps out Armenians and other people who need help.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy. Oh snap, I mean, what else can you do?
Speaker 2:Well, he's not the nominee and it looks like he's going to put his support behind the nominee.
Speaker 3:Wasn't he trying for vice president?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe he thinks he could beat out Tim Scott because he's a lighter brown.
Speaker 2:Tim Scott is another crazy one. I can't with him, this dude.
Speaker 1:If Tim Scott or Vivek. What's Vivek's name? I don't even know, vivek Ram Sami. If either one of those gentlemen think that Donald Trump is going to Save them, Save them, dude.
Speaker 2:Donald Trump didn't save Mike Pence and he's like the whitest dude. Even his hair is white. That's what I'm saying. He's like Steve.
Speaker 1:Martin over here. That's what I'm saying Once again, sir, do you know how many white men are saying exactly what you're saying, that I can choose from, and you want me to choose one of you.
Speaker 4:Get out of here, nigger brown nigger and brown nigger.
Speaker 2:It's horrible it's horrible still no, but honestly, tim tim scott is another crazy one, because you see the interview with him where there was a host was trying to say, like, look, if Trump is in the election, he's a nominee and it goes to the election and he is. You know, whoever the nominee is, will you, or whoever the victor is, you know, will you support whoever the victor is, whether it's Trump or the other candidate? And this dude dodged that question seven times in a row. I've never seen a more other candidate and this dude dodged that question seven times in a row. I've never seen a more slippery back and forth. This dude was saying, like I believe Trump will be the next president. It's like, okay, you believe that? Wow, if he's not the next president, will you support anyone else? He's still the president.
Speaker 1:Because he knows and he's the dude, that's like no.
Speaker 2:I believe the American people are going to do the right thing and elect him.
Speaker 1:Because he knows, he knows he knows bro, but no one's beating Big T bro. It's sad.
Speaker 3:Didn't you say you loved him and you helped him?
Speaker 2:He loved him. He was like yeah, I love you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, chris Christie loved him. All the motherfuckers loved him, bro. Everybody loved Big T. And Big T loved all of them as long as they did something for him, but as soon as you didn't do anything for him, you was nobody you're talking about amarosa all of them, yeah oh all of them, this dude.
Speaker 2:This dude's got like 40 people who he's thrown off to the side in the since 2016 40 notable people what is?
Speaker 1:is it the House? Not the Speaker of the House, but the Press Secretaries or whatever?
Speaker 2:Sarah Huckabee Sanders, all the list. It was massive. And then there was the other one, kellyanne Conway.
Speaker 4:He has bodies. That's what it is Bodies. That dude is wild Even with bodies. And being put to be locked up still Still gonna be what the T is for. And being put to fucking to be locked up still, Bro, Still going to be.
Speaker 1:What the T is for Teflon brother. Yeah.
Speaker 4:He definitely got the T Straight up brother, it's that New York thing, what's it called?
Speaker 2:Teflon oh, dapper Dan, dapper Don.
Speaker 1:Dapper Don.
Speaker 2:Let's not do that to Dapper Dan.
Speaker 1:Let's not do that to Dapper Don, dapper Don. Let's not do that to Dapper Dan. Let's not do that to Dapper Dan.
Speaker 2:But the crazy thing is like the thing about you said Teflon, his Teflon is that he won't even like he's taken many L's Bankruptcies, closures, he just will never admit anything. It's always someone else's fault. He's the narcissist mentality to the max.
Speaker 1:So he can never be wrong, because it's always the system that's wrong. But that's the thing. You gotta think about it like this even those l's are self-admitted l's, he has to file for bankruptcy.
Speaker 2:It's not like somebody came and just took it from well, they took the election from him right like he lost the election. He's not the president now. He's not sitting in the white house I mean, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1:They took the election from him, that's what he's saying they took the election from him.
Speaker 2:But that's what he's saying. Like he was given an L, the White House was taken. He had to leave, otherwise if he didn't have to leave he'd still be there. But he's saying it's taken because he just can't admit or he can't.
Speaker 1:Hey, when you lose an election, you're not allowed to stay in the White House anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what it is, that it's not like. No, they were saying that everyone who loses has a concession speech. They say all that stuff, remember, he didn't do any of that, none of that.
Speaker 2:I don't play by the rules. He had to tell his people to go take it back for him. He did the opposite.
Speaker 4:I'm telling you right now he's a different movement, he's different, he ain't different, he's similar, similar to who?
Speaker 1:Hitler, I'm sorry, wow, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No, I mean yeah, he's a straight up autocrat.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, if you really think about it if you want to be serious about it.
Speaker 2:No, for real.
Speaker 1:The reason why I say Hitler is you have to think about how he's motivating people and what he's motivating people with the group. He's using technically the same techniques as Hitler.
Speaker 2:It's xenophobia and hating the other, the other or the reason for the problems. The economy would be fine if it wasn't for the Mexicans coming over the border. Let's build a wall.
Speaker 1:That's his whole agenda.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4:You know, it's just different people of minorities. I said it as a joke but I was dead serious. No, it's the same thing. I can see, hey the camera. Minorities. I said it as a joke, but I was dead serious. No, it's the same thing. The camera can see your face. Sorry, hey, it's a different movement. No, fuck.
Speaker 1:Trump, fuck Trump.
Speaker 4:Are we?
Speaker 1:I'm good. I mean, we can keep talking about Big T all you want, but I'm cool. Mark, are you good? I'm good, trump better not you.
Speaker 2:Good, no, I'm good, I mean Trump. Better not come back to DC, I mean dude.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you DC doesn't play.
Speaker 2:Did you see when Richard Spencer came and he got punched on the street? Four like three times.
Speaker 1:He's not a president. I know but shit, Big T will be back bro.
Speaker 4:Something happened, I guess, in DC. Didn't a lot of protesters get arrested this recently?
Speaker 3:Who did?
Speaker 4:A lot of protesters got arrested. I don't know if it was about the war situation.
Speaker 2:I did see that, so I actually was driving. This was recently, so there was the press event for every year the Speakers Gala. It's like for the press, speakers gala, whatever. The title's wrong, but it's basically like people from the press are invited. Comedians are there, people give speeches. This is way back. When Trump had his first beef with Obama was because Obama fried him at one of those events. He wasn't even the president or nominee at that point, but he was like that created the whole movement thing or whatever.
Speaker 2:I think it was a lot of protesters actually camped out, they camped out and they were protesting that this event was happening when everything in Gaza was happening 29 arrested yeah. And they actually some of them were 28 were arrested.
Speaker 4:One was arrested. They actually 28 were arrested. One actually assaulted a police officer.
Speaker 2:They did hang a Palestinian flag up from the big building. I remember I was driving through DC and the traffic was just insane. They shut down Massachusetts, they shut down Connecticut, they shut down all the side streets. If you were in that vicinity, you couldn't move anywhere and we eventually got through it. But yeah, we saw a lot of people. Honestly, dude, it was crazy because I was seeing a lot of people in like crazy suits, like it looked like Hunger Games suits and vibes, and then all this protesting and it was like really the two different yeah, it wasn't even people from.
Speaker 4:You could tell it was like really it wasn't people too different yeah, it wasn't. You could tell it was like it wasn't even people from like the colleges or whatever. It was literally like yeah, no, it's just like everyday people like protesters, but it was.
Speaker 2:It was crazy to see the differences. Like you've got people being, you know, losing their homes and suffering, and then you know people in the capital of dc is like kind of hunger games mentality was. It was really crazy to see but anywho anywho, anywho, just bringing that up real quick.
Speaker 4:Anybody else have any closing remarks, or whatever?
Speaker 1:No, we're good man, We'll do better next time.
Speaker 4:Hey Trine, we're good, we're good, we're good Peace and love to all people. Yo.
Speaker 2:Except Donald Trump.
Speaker 1:This guy want to get to New York, so bad Look at.