Absolute DMV
Absolute DMV
Anibal's Film Journey & DMV Cultural Tapestry
What if working on reality TV could open doors you never imagined? This episode is a must-listen as we welcome Anibal, an industry insider and longtime friend, who takes us behind the scenes of his incredible journey through the film industry. Anibal shares his experiences working on popular reality shows like "Real Housewives of Potomac" and "Summer House," offering a unique glimpse into the world of post-production. From navigating the ups and downs of reality TV to appreciating the far-reaching influence of the "Real Housewives" franchise—spanning cities like Atlanta, New York, Dubai, and Salt Lake City—Anibal's stories are both engaging and eye-opening.
Our conversation doesn't stop at the film industry; it takes a personal turn as Anibal reflects on his upbringing in the diverse DMV (DC, Maryland, Virginia) area. Growing up as the son of a housekeeper and attending the affluent Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School, he experienced a melting pot of cultures that profoundly shaped his worldview. Through vivid anecdotes, Anibal highlights the opportunities and contrasts within the DMV community, painting a vibrant picture of his life's journey. This episode is a blend of professional insights and personal reflections that promises to leave you inspired and entertained.
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Absolute DMV Podcast. It's your man, ace Boogie, and I'm here with a few good guys, here with my man, mark. Hey, what's going?
Speaker 2:on everyone.
Speaker 1:I'm here with my man, ego, ego on the boards and we also have a special guest in the building. I would like to go ahead and just pass it off to mark, because mark can better introduce this man than I can yeah.
Speaker 2:So today we got, uh, my buddy annabelle, who I've known since what? 2006, I guess that sounds right yeah, so we went to the same high school. I actually ended up working together. This dude was my manager for a bit.
Speaker 4:What high school was that?
Speaker 2:actually Bethesda Chevy Chase. Okay, bcc, bcc.
Speaker 3:I was 08.
Speaker 2:You were what 05. 05.
Speaker 3:That's right, I'm an old guy.
Speaker 1:What's up.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. All right, all right. But no, Anibal and I, we've been doing moves together for a while. He's been pretty instrumental in my music career, just pointing me in the right direction, and recently he's been doing some really cool stuff in the film industry, specifically reality TV. So you know, I'm going to pass it to you, man, how has your summer been? You were on a shoot, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, so I just wrapped on Real Housewives of Potomac, potomac, potomac. So I was really thankful to be on something local and arguably probably one of the bigger productions in the area. Yeah, definitely, because you don't really hear much of anything other than documentaries and political ads and whatnot, which is huge around here. But to be part of something where I could go home, that was amazing and I'm very lucky you guys love talking about politics.
Speaker 1:No, quick, quick, quick question I try to avoid it at all costs, but they love it yeah, so quick question what network it is?
Speaker 4:this is bravo, okay, all Just letting the listeners know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I've been lucky to be employed through Truly, which is the production company that makes like 13 or so different reality shows.
Speaker 4:It's ridiculous, yeah.
Speaker 3:I was a post-PA so I worked on like 10 different shows at once, and then Summer House last year, Real Housewives this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, real Housewives. That's one of the biggest staples in reality TV. I feel like it's a top one. There's been so many versions for so many years.
Speaker 3:This is season 9, so there's definitely a following.
Speaker 1:There's already been 9 seasons of Potomac.
Speaker 3:We just wrapped 9. And Atlanta's gotta be following. And people that watch Hold on. There's already been nine seasons of Potomac. This is we just wrapped nine, wow.
Speaker 2:And Atlanta's got to be like in the 20s right, no, no, that's a 14, 15. 14, 15,. Okay, that's crazy.
Speaker 4:And then I guess what it started off in New York, right? Or? What's the history of it? Oh man, I wish I could tell you.
Speaker 3:I believe the first one's either, atlanta being that it's 14.
Speaker 4:Or California or something like that, or Orange County or New York. That's right, yeah.
Speaker 3:Those would definitely be the long-standing ones, but Potomac found some ground. I know, dubai just found some ground, whoa. And then Salt Lake City is another big one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, it's crazy man, so I guess you're touching on pretty much Potomac, but Hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:Oh, my bad no.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. I'm sorry we're forgetting, because, oh yeah. I forgot to ask no, no, it's all good, it's all good, it's all good.
Speaker 2:This is my first time hosting. No, I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I get it, I get it, but you know, I got your back, I got your back. There we go, so now go ahead, and you know go ahead and take it Now.
Speaker 2:Take it, no, yeah, no. So now that we've done the introduction and everything, we do have a part of the introduction for the podcast, us being Absolute DMV. So it's basically like what makes you a card-carrying member of the DMV, Something that you really like, that the DMV really rocks with as far as a cultural standpoint or an artistic standpoint, and you, being a DC native, you know I'm sure there's a lot of things that you're immersed in with the culture, but is there anything that you particularly identify with that kind of makes you like truly DMV?
Speaker 3:That's a tough question but I think I'd speak to the whole melting pot of the whole area just because I grew up son of a housekeeper but went to BCC, which is one of the more affluent public high schools in the area, absolutely.
Speaker 3:So I was super lucky to be able to come home and have Latin food on my table but go to a pretty nice high school and school and otherwise and be around people that I probably wouldn't be around otherwise. You know what I mean, and being in a diverse area definitely helps you grow up more balanced.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm sorry to cut you off, but. I know BCC was the first place that I ever in high school played on a turf field.
Speaker 3:No, no no see, and when we went you don't kind of realize that right, yeah you get grow up um and looking back, super fortunate, uh no and uh yeah I would just say that melting pot aspect being able to grow up around different people from every different background. Yeah, Something I ask people from the area is this is how I know you're from the DMV.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, what was the name of Six Flags before? It was Six Flags and Bowie oh, oh man.
Speaker 4:Hershey Park. No, no, no, no, no, hershey Park is still Hershey Park, I know.
Speaker 3:Fuck around. Oh oh man, Hershey Park no.
Speaker 1:No no, no, hershey Park is still Hershey.
Speaker 4:Park, I know oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's history.
Speaker 4:That's history.
Speaker 1:No, because at this point I feel like Six Flags has been there for like 25 years. It's been there for a long time.
Speaker 4:You know what's so funny? I couldn't even afford it.
Speaker 3:My parents, couldn't even to go there. You're as old as I am. There's at least one or two names, at least in your head.
Speaker 2:I never I know I never went to Six Flags like that as a kid. You, son of a bitch, I know.
Speaker 3:But I watched all the TV commercials with the old guy dancing.
Speaker 4:No, it was the cheapest one dude, I know. I know.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think of what it was got me messed up, yeah, adventure world I was gonna say adventure world, because I think they have an adventure world.
Speaker 2:There's an adventure park usa which is not far away at all, yes, but adventure world hey, thank you, thank you as people, thank you animal dropping, jibs amen no no, no, that's perfect.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. He flipped the dmv card on us. I like that. I love that.
Speaker 4:That being said so, you said the mixing pot is one of your cards.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, just being able to diversity, there's no like foods or anything like that.
Speaker 4:So you travel pretty much around the United States.
Speaker 1:That's what a man is my mama's food.
Speaker 3:My mama's food, my mama's food.
Speaker 1:There's no wrong answer there.
Speaker 2:My mama, there's no wrong answer there. My mom and the food that the women cook. My mom, you're right, you're right. But uh, and then the next? What takes the card away? Yeah, yeah, is there something that would not be conducive with dmv?
Speaker 1:culture like you don't rock with something that is exclusively dmv. Oh, I don't know, I like that.
Speaker 4:He's so dmv I'm so dmv there's nothing. I'm so dmv bro I mean say the question again.
Speaker 2:So like is there something, um, that is like a dmv staple or something that's really big as part of the, the culture or, you know, fashion or something, or I don't like that you don't like you know that is a staple, like a dm, a traditional food from the dmv or you know
Speaker 1:you don't like rombo sauce, yeah, or? Something like that or yeah, you don't rock new balances or something like that, why y'all keep shooting at me Is that a.
Speaker 3:Thing.
Speaker 1:I've never owned a pair of New Balances in my life. Well is that a DC thing?
Speaker 2:New Balances are, I guess, very much a big DC thing Very much.
Speaker 3:I see them a lot, 990. I didn't know it was a DC thing, it's a huge.
Speaker 1:A lot of people want to argue with us, especially Baltimore, but nah, it's a DC thing. But nah, it's a.
Speaker 4:DC thing.
Speaker 3:It's a DC thing.
Speaker 4:It's a DC thing, you'll see some real DC, like if you go to a Go-Go, I see a lot. If you go to a Go-Go, you'll see.
Speaker 3:Am I tripping dude? New balances are like $200.
Speaker 2:They got really expensive. I remember in the Seinfeld days that you should just be like dad shoes.
Speaker 3:I used to Remember there were only like two, three models.
Speaker 4:So that and we bought classics. Right Back in the day we bought classics no everybody had the same model.
Speaker 3:You were lucky to have two or three different colors, but everybody had the same joints.
Speaker 1:I mean most people had the solid, gray, the solid gray.
Speaker 4:Yeah, solid and blues, and it was $9.90, $9.91, $9.92.
Speaker 1:I don't even know. Yeah, 991-992.
Speaker 2:I don't even know For someone who don't like New Balances. You know a lot about it. He's a sneakerhead, I'm a sneakerhead. Yeah, I'm a sneakerhead, so I knew about him. You know what?
Speaker 1:Honestly at the time, because the most popular ones were the solid gray ones. That was just actually so plain to me.
Speaker 3:I saw those and the white ones. Yeah, I couldn't rock them.
Speaker 1:Super, super plain, and that's what I'm saying. They were super plain at the time, and during that time was once again, I'm a little older During that time was during the whole Michael Jordan coming out with three colors on his shoe, getting fined and that being the fly shit out. So I grew up on Jordans. You know what I'm saying. I didn't grow up on the solid gray running shoe.
Speaker 1:I grew up on the multicolored basketball shoe and that's what I still wear. So you know what I'm saying. It's nothing against New Balance. I just rock with Nikes and I rock with.
Speaker 4:Jordans more. I'll wait until we get a sponsor for New Balance. I would love it. I love New Balance. I'll wait until we get a sponsor for New.
Speaker 1:Balance.
Speaker 3:I would love it. I love New Balance. I love it. They're fire.
Speaker 1:New Balance, if you see this holler at your boy.
Speaker 4:I would love it. I'm open to rocking.
Speaker 2:New Balance. We're for a sponsorship.
Speaker 3:I love them. They're awesome.
Speaker 4:I've never worn any.
Speaker 1:So yeah, hold your boy down, please, yeah he'll talk.
Speaker 4:The pictures look good I'll rock them.
Speaker 1:I want a pair, just you know I'm ready for a pair. You know I will buy you some, I'm ready for a pair no, did I will.
Speaker 4:No, that was cute, that was cute.
Speaker 3:Shut up. He said I'll buy you shoes, I know stop, stop.
Speaker 4:I said no.
Speaker 3:I'll buy you shoes.
Speaker 4:And I'll take them.
Speaker 2:Go shopping. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I will take them. There ain't no shame in my game.
Speaker 1:Fuck y'all, but yeah, so Anything like that that you don't rock with.
Speaker 3:Well, no, I don't think there's something I don't rock with but, I will say I was not agreeing. I didn't like gogo for a very long time. I didn't like it for a very long time until, and why. You know it's just a different live music sound, yeah, uh, which you know. I just wasn't digging until like more and more recently. Shout out to Scoob that my dude this past season he was rocking some go-go in the van and I have no choice but to listen.
Speaker 4:You had no choice to change it, but no.
Speaker 3:I kind of liked it because I've heard some songs over the years, right, that I like, I've always remembered and I'll always hear. You know where I'm like, oh shit, that's Go-Go. And I've heard these songs outside of the DMV and I'm like oh shit. And now I'm like, oh man, no, this is good, this is different. It's like an artistic type of style. It's style which I have come to appreciate.
Speaker 1:it's super unique. Yeah, yeah, it's always. It's like a snowflake, it's different every time you hear it. Yeah, absolutely true. Um, I mean, my favorite part is when, uh and I'm terrible for this forgetting the band's name and shorty's name northeast groovers no, not that backyard band. No, shorty who did uh pieces of Me took over Ashley Simpson's song.
Speaker 3:I don't even want to hear Ashley Simpson's song. So you know, I told my dude.
Speaker 1:Scoob Pieces of Me is a go-go song.
Speaker 3:I told my dude Scoob this and he's like I didn't even know that was a real song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. Shout out to Scoob, shout out to Scoob.
Speaker 3:That was dope.
Speaker 2:It's interesting you say that because I had a conversation with someone not too long ago which was basically the same thing. They didn't really like Go-Go until they listened to an actual album from a Go-Go artist, like the actual studio album. The thing that I realized is that a lot of the radio stations like 93.9, 95.5, will play the live versions late at night.
Speaker 3:That's the only time I've ever heard them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and go-go does not necessarily translate very well as a live recording especially on the radio, because, well, to a regular listener, but also because there's so much Go-go head that's all they like looking for.
Speaker 3:True, but to a kid listening to 97 or what 99, whatever a kid. Growing up in high school you're like, oh, that's kind of different. I don't know if I like that but just if I'm not from that area?
Speaker 4:no, I wasn't. Yeah, I was from bethesda. I didn't hear that, but that's it. Yeah, you were on the outskirts. Yeah, I didn't hear that I didn't hear it.
Speaker 1:No, I mean I grew up and I grew up on Go-Go. I was in the Mad Chef. You know what I'm saying. We were going over to places.
Speaker 4:Rockville.
Speaker 1:Sportsplex, all that other stuff. We was in all in places.
Speaker 4:Big up to Young.
Speaker 3:Shout out to.
Speaker 4:Rockville.
Speaker 1:Light Skin Black Light.
Speaker 4:Skin Black actually expresses he's a Go-Go head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying we was in all them places so we got to experience the culture, the good. When you in there it's hot Everybody having fun.
Speaker 4:It was all about love. Ladies in there shaking, I think you leave you having a great time dancing.
Speaker 1:Good time, but then also the bad when the lady was shaking too hard on you and her man or whatever.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying and now you got to deal with it outside.
Speaker 1:But, once again, that's all part of the culture. That's what you dealt with, that's what you did.
Speaker 2:But I think that you know, being in a live go-go show has an awesome energy. But then I think just sonically and just for the amount of bandwidth in the frequency the radio cannot capture that because you got so much production and percussion and the live vocals it's just a lot and back of the day, like when we were growing up no one had like Bose systems in their cars, like that all the time. Like it was like radios have gotten a lot better back in the day you just couldn't hear enough so it sounded very muffled.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing we weren't listening to. Go, go for the sound quality, hey man, your dad exclusively listens to live music you know so like you should. That's, that's someone live music, live instrumentation, things like that, like when it's geared for recording. Yeah, that's a whole different story and that's the thing. Go goes not geared for recording. Go go is we're playing and you just happen to be recording it like we got originally.
Speaker 4:You know, I'm saying yeah, so they never actually got a really answer.
Speaker 1:Like I say, never got a chance to dig in a chance, but but now in the beginning. Yeah, in the beginning it there was. There was never that. We're in the studio making this. You know what I'm saying and we're gearing it for it to be a recording. It was now we're live on stage. Yeah, we're partying, we're cranking and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2:So and I think it's one of those things where it can be geared to it, if you know that ahead of time, just because, like, unlike a band or a rapper or something, you've got a couple different mics going on for a couple different instruments. But most bands are like rock bands and everything are like four or five, you know six pieces. Go-go bands can get up to seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve. You know you got multiple people. You're thinking too hard. I'm just saying you, I'm just saying to make it sound good from a live perspective, it can be done. You just need the mic.
Speaker 4:So that's how when gogo came out was not just like hip-hop, like it wasn't meant to go the mainstream. What it did, sure, and that's the thing about it when gogo's out, it was like house party things. It was really it was meant for celebration of the hood. And then people heard, like I said, that's why they had cassette tapes and things like that, because it was played on, they recorded on some like Bobo system, yeah, and then, of course, the only time you can hear Go-Go from that and that's why you notice how many Go-Go had so many tape not even like events.
Speaker 2:It had nights like, like had dates on it, then that's what it was, because it wasn't at a venue like yeah that's what was played on the radio but, that's the only time it was made, because that was live or whatever.
Speaker 4:I see, eventually they were like yo, this is really a a big thing of dc, and that's when they started like, all right, let's make it more you have to figure out how to record this and figure out how to package it, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So like it evolved sure, sure you were thinking about it like now all right, this is how it is, and that's what I'm just I remember like I remember those tape times and I was like, oh my god, did you got the? You got the five, uh, five, uh. What's it called?
Speaker 1:five.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the 520 01s or whatever, and that's what it was the name of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying, so but I think that that's probably why, to some extent, gogo doesn't necessarily resonate with non-gogo listeners. Yeah, because like they don't know the backstory but they hear the mix quality or something and it doesn't quite pop for them on the radio, whereas now modern gogo- that was animal yeah like people used to say pots and pans like.
Speaker 3:That's what it sounds like oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's a little jarring you don't understand it and I mean, but if you are of that culture, if you are in that culture, then yeah and like you said it took you some time because you were from bethesda, to get into that culture yeah, yeah you know'm saying I don't want to harp on that, but go ahead.
Speaker 3:But not only is it live, it's a cover and it does sound that first pot and pan sound type of sound, that backyard sound.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the congos, the congos, the congos and everything yeah and it's got great energy.
Speaker 2:I've loved, and a lot of you know, mediums and it's just, it's got a good uh, an undeniable energy. That constant percussion throughout the song. It makes it really hard not to just bop your head and it makes it easier to, just for listening. No, it's really dope.
Speaker 2:But, um, all right, cool. Now we got the dmv card yeah, settled. V-card yeah, settled, yeah. Back to reality TV. So very important question You've been on set for how many shoots now? Two seasons of shows, of shows, okay. So you've had two different shows, two different casts. You've been on set in person seeing the filming process, the behind the scenes, yep, you know, seeing the people on camera, off camera, yep, are the people, are the stars On camera? Like, does the camera turn on and do they kind of change, like the way?
Speaker 4:they speak a little bit, or is it? Are they fake? Fake ass?
Speaker 2:I know you can't say everything, but no, no, I mean.
Speaker 3:No, I'll be honest. No, I don't think they're fake, I think it's like anybody. That becomes Like steps into entertainment. You kind of turn yourself up a bit.
Speaker 4:Oh, amplified. Yeah, and to turn yourself up a bit oh, amplified, yeah, and I think that's the only way it works for you because, who wants to?
Speaker 3:watch you if you're just yeah, it's just a regular dude. Uh, you know I'll watch a lot of wrestling. I'm a wrestling nerd oh yeah, so you're bringing that in the big amplify, yeah I mean, you gotta turn yourself up in order for people to want to pay attention to you, bad or good. So, yeah, people will turn theirself up. Are they fake? No, yeah, uh, definitely not. But do they turn theirself up and let like kind of loose, kind of get loose a little bit?
Speaker 2:yes, yeah, but nothing it's kind of like that news reporter vibe, like you got to say it with affect to make it interesting to people.
Speaker 4:Just you know, kind of hear you out and everything no, I'm, I'm not saying fake as in like it's two different personalities. I'm saying that, like you said, amplify it, because the network is saying you have to amplify it. Do you understand?
Speaker 1:like the way they will Put some sauce on it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, some sauce on it for the viewers, but they're most likely like once you say cut, they're not that Like. Once you say cut, they're not that Like that's what I was saying. Yeah, no, I wouldn't say so harshly, like oh yeah, yeah, and then no, they're like no, no, no no.
Speaker 3:Again, they just turn themselves up. They just can become more loose.
Speaker 1:I would say An introvert can kind of get extroverted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you definitely want to be introverted. You don't want to be introverted on camera and be on camera. Yeah, it's stressful, unless they're hiding it real good. You know, I don't know that, but they've all been nice to me. Everybody was cool, no bad people.
Speaker 4:So there's no like in the back, like okay, I guess. I don't know NDA, but most likely saying Cruella de Vil type of thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of like that.
Speaker 3:Divas on set, kind of like, or somebody was on like you know, you know, like not hard to work with, like I have heard people be harsh, yeah, okay, I have not witnessed that. Okay, to be honest, I've again like going into summer house. I did hear there's a, you know there are people that can people certain people that can be rough. Yeah, on potomac housewives. I mean, come on these, these women have been through it all.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're supposed to be like-end Again. They're supposed to perceive themselves like they're strong, yeah, strong, independent. They're doing their things. And that's what I was saying, not saying fakeness, but most likely they have to show the image that they're above the normal. That's the reason why the show is what the show is. Yeah, potomac is not Bethesda. What the show is yeah, as Potomac is not Bethesda, potomac is not Rockville, potomac is above that, and that's what I'm saying, and I mean I'm sure that in certain situations they give them a little bit of alcohol to help.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, are they drinking?
Speaker 3:Let's get it in. And so I'll be honest. You know, I'm more of like the technical side, like the camera side, so, um, I was really digging into that, so that what you're talking about would be more producer side of them, kind of. So what, what I? What I can say is, like you know, let's say, uh, two cast members are talking. A producer will kind of bring up, hey, mention, remember, mention, remember, remember. When you said this hey, just bring that up, okay, okay, just to kind of steer if things are kind of getting boring too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if they're just like Mention. Remember when you said this hey, just bring that up, okay. Okay, just to kind of steer If things are kind of getting boring too, if they're just like Dead air kind of shit Dead air right you want the producers need something.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So hey, mention this real quick, push this, you know, talk about that, oh okay, but nothing is ever scripted like yo read this yeah is ever scripted like yo read this, yeah, and then talk talk about that, okay let's read this.
Speaker 3:That is never a thing I did. I have no. I have heard that be a thing of the past. Like for other shows, yeah, um, but I have not. There's no scripting, all they will say. If things get kind of boring, when things aren't kind of like, yeah, bleeding anywhere, they will say hey, so quick question on that then.
Speaker 4:Yeah, uh, technically like so how many takes? Because I've been when I was in la, like I said when I was in la, you know there's a script and they'll keep doing until you get it right the way, the reality. Do they stop and say, all right, that sound, that looked awful. No, I need you.
Speaker 2:Well, it's no takes it's almost like like exactly so yeah, it's almost like jersey soar, essentially like, or they've got like multiple cameras on these people. It's what you think reality show is real.
Speaker 3:That's what you would hope. It is right like no cameras are on you all the time they're filming him. Yeah, and there's no takes. I will say there are some times where like, uh, you know, producers will catch you, make a little smirk, look at well, it's just funny because I'm trying to, you know, be be light here, but it's like it's just funny, because you'll catch people on, you know, being filmed, kind of like talk about something and then the producers will kind of look at each other like she's kind of lying, oh why, why are they talking about?
Speaker 3:that you know okay so you know, I don't again. I don't really know backstory or what's happening you're not a part of, but I will notice these kind of looks like hey, why is it?
Speaker 2:that makes sense. If they're filming everything, then they know the truth about well the producers would know a lot about these, yeah all the research at least, at least when they're on the clock for the show there, and some of them.
Speaker 3:I know these people throughout the seasons, so they're actually pretty close to these individuals so they know a lot. So when someone's not kind of like is maybe lying, they'll be like yo why are you? Lying. So I think that's interesting just to kind of see those relationships between production and the cast. I find that to be very interesting. Yeah, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, I find that to be very interesting. Yeah, well, seeing the inner workings of a couple shows and being on set and dealing with the post production and everything, and seeing just how much time being someone who is being filmed, like how much that takes out of you and how draining that can be. Is there a reality show that you would choose to be on? Is there, like I guess, one more than the other?
Speaker 3:And then there's a second part when you pick, hmm, well, if I had a fantasy pick, it would be like the old Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's a fantasy. You and I used to watch it. That was crazy. That's a fantasy. Imagine that.
Speaker 4:Imagine being on that. Dude, that's a fantasy. Imagine that. Imagine being on that like that. That's so cool man it was live and it was peak. Things happened peak house reality bro, I don't think anyone knew the term Guido before that do you think the same thing about real world too? Do you think that? At that time yeah in that moment, I mean when Jersey happened. It was on the decline yeah, but I I mean when Jersey happened.
Speaker 3:it was on the decline. Yeah, exactly, but I did watch Real World growing up. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:I was going to say I'm one of those Real World Road Rules challenge type people. Not anymore, but at the time, At the time I was on that show, I was like man and man, they cranked those shows out still.
Speaker 3:I don't watch them, but they're on Challenge 48.
Speaker 4:They're still doing. They are doing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not familiar but I did watch a lot of seasons of real world. No, yeah, maybe like the first 13, 15, maybe, I don't even know, but a few because it also because they went around the world.
Speaker 4:They went around the world and when they went around it was like weird to see our age pretty much because technically that was our age and it would be like acting a fool.
Speaker 3:You know what camera you know what it was. Was what pre-internet dude?
Speaker 2:yeah, well, that too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was like people were just outside living, not inside the whole time. Everything, everything. People didn't know everything, yeah everything they did online.
Speaker 4:It was going out like it was like, they're like they'll be in the house and they're like we're going out tonight. It's amazing and they'll all get ready and then some drama happens. Somebody get drunk and they'll be in the house and they're like we're going out tonight. It was amazing and they'll all get ready and then some drama happens. Somebody gets drunk and they'll come back and there'll be some more drama. That's how it was.
Speaker 3:Well, internet also made everybody know-it-alls and, like everybody knows everything, I love that.
Speaker 2:So like pre-internet.
Speaker 3:Everybody came from their cities, didn't know shit about nothing, yeah, and then you literally put them in a house.
Speaker 4:I think I thought that was great, it was perfect.
Speaker 1:That was great. You can't do that now no yeah. Because you know something about every city yeah Right, or you're influenced by there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you see it in all.
Speaker 3:But back then, bro, it was just raw people from raw cities.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, right, that's a really good point.
Speaker 2:And from a controversy standpoint, like for drama and everything. Like if you got a bunch of people in a house and they don't have any smartphones or any tablets or anything like that, Well, they still don't have TVs and whatnot.
Speaker 3:They don't allow those.
Speaker 2:Okay, but when people go out, I think they do allow phones. Okay, phones, but okay.
Speaker 4:Oh, so you're allowed to have your phone on set or not? Oh well for our stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah Okay, I don't know about others, but yeah, okay, you're not going to tell the housewives to put their phone away.
Speaker 4:No, they're going to have their phones. I thought it was kind of like that.
Speaker 1:They got kids too.
Speaker 4:Well.
Speaker 3:I'm saying but while they're shooting, I don't see them sitting there while you're shooting?
Speaker 4:they don't. I don't see them like sitting there while you're yeah, they're not rude, like you know like scrolling through instagram no, no, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but they're, they definitely have their phones available.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are not, they're, they're professionals okay yeah, they figured it yeah, that makes sense then, yeah, yeah, all right, so jersey shore is your, and if I could, work on something now, though.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't even watch that much reality, but it's it's weird now, like the way it's very weird the way reality is like, even like I was telling my girl like 90 day fiancee that's very popular. Yeah, love is blind is really big too but it's the one of the biggest things off of that, like kind of like reality, yeah, and that's I don't know, I feel it's not the best.
Speaker 3:I would love to do man remember when Vice was killing it.
Speaker 4:Oh, in the beginning. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Man, I was just working with someone who was working at Vice during the peak of Vice.
Speaker 4:Well, that's when Vice was really like Vice Land and their were killing it man.
Speaker 3:If I could work on something and be fucking.
Speaker 4:that's delicious so what do you think happened like something like that that happened in Viceland?
Speaker 3:Oh, I know a little bit. So I just worked on Potomac. My PM worked on Viceland, at the peak of Viceland.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And he just said people were spending money and just not doing well.
Speaker 4:For the production. It wasn't really doing it for the production it well, or, you know, not for the production it wasn't really doing it for the production, it was more money literally.
Speaker 3:He said it was just money being spent, just money for and people would. He said people would come and ask to go to a certain city. They wouldn't even ask you why write a check or buy you a ticket. Bam and that was it, and then they wouldn't shoot anything for it I don't know what happened after but he would just tell me like people were able, were able to like take flights wherever they wanted, and it just sounds like money was just being spent without being able to like you know, no one's controlling it.
Speaker 1:I can believe it because Vice was one of my favorite channels.
Speaker 4:Their content was great. They had the show with damn, I forget his name.
Speaker 1:I'm so sorry. Rest in peace to homie From the Wire, from the Wire From the Wire yeah, oh man.
Speaker 3:Black Market, oh yeah. I love that show he used to travel See that's a show. That's a great show. I would work on that show.
Speaker 4:But then also they had a lot of them it was called considered like a Black Market network kind of like they were doing outside the norm yeah, they would talk about stuff no one else would touch exactly, and that's what I think was the issue because again, they were pushing the envelope. I loved it huge at the time of social media, so like at that time it was work. I mean they even had what's the guy? Who's the rapper? White rapper, axl Ronson.
Speaker 3:Axl Ronson oh yeah, if I could work on that show, it'd be that show. That show was ridiculous. That was a really cool show. I love that show.
Speaker 4:When he was going around pretty much talking, yeah, and it was him and his homeboys pretty much, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:No, my favorite show then was Most Expensivest.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Two.
Speaker 4:Chains 2 Chainz used to get so One episode where he got so high on the show where he couldn't really do the show.
Speaker 1:No more.
Speaker 4:I was like yo, that's the greatest thing ever. What other network would allow that? That's the greatest thing ever bro, that's the one I loved about Vice.
Speaker 3:There's that one show where the white dude did all the drugs and recorded himself.
Speaker 2:Who's gonna do that All the different ones right Like one at a time, right like one at a time.
Speaker 4:No network had that and that and the thing about it I think it was. It was getting too popular and you said the money was so spent and then they were like this is not, makes no sense. I'm not making any money out of it.
Speaker 2:The thing that sucks is that, like a lot of their like, like vice news and stuff, which I think what for the most part was like I mean, in a lot of ways I got most of my news from them. You know they were like they were touching stuff that no one else was touching and I think that's something that nowadays everyone has a political spin, or even if it's not political, there's a presentation that the outlet sort of wants to follow. So it's very rare to get just a raw factual sort of thing.
Speaker 3:Speaking of the fall of Viceland, I don't know if anybody was hip growing up to G4.
Speaker 1:well, I fucking loved g4 g4 is my shit because g4 used to have a america, not ninja warrior, on it. Yeah, yeah, original yeah but so they.
Speaker 3:A few years ago they did a big reboot and it was only on youtube, which was very weird to me and it was completely funded by comcast. Comcast bought the rights. They were like all in, they spent tons of money, they bought out like a warehouse, they outfitted it out, six studio and then they spent tons of money on like big uh, internet influencer, youtubers and like that's a lot of. They were like pumping money out, dude, pumping money, but no one's watching because no one heard of it.
Speaker 3:No one heard of it because why it was only on youtube and for a company like comcast to not put it on a network. Yeah, made to me. I was like what I think?
Speaker 1:I'm watching it and I'm watching the channel.
Speaker 3:Might as well put it on your own distribution your own distribution and you don't put it on at least what they call. They have these fast channels now, which is what I was talking about earlier, where they just have, like those free channels on the Samsung.
Speaker 4:TV.
Speaker 3:Those are called fast channels. Yeah, throw it on that joint People will watch.
Speaker 4:I was watching, like freebie, I'll watch them.
Speaker 2:I'll watch Ninja Warrior, so they get a hit to count.
Speaker 3:You know where count. So many people are watching like, only like. Thousands are watching. I'm like damn, this is good stuff and I missed it, man.
Speaker 1:And then the Warrior.
Speaker 3:Then they had another joke that was kind of like Cheaters remember Cheaters, oh Cheaters, I loved it.
Speaker 1:And Cops All Day, the bloopers game where, like people would be doing the obstacle course, yeah, yeah, and it was dubbed.
Speaker 3:it was dubbed MXC, mxc, mxc. Yeah, maxim.
Speaker 1:Extreme Challenge yeah.
Speaker 4:I love it. I love it. I think they changed it to Wipeout. I think it's.
Speaker 3:Wipeout. Well now, yeah, now it's soft and Wipeout, but they were fucking. They were fucking motherfuckers.
Speaker 2:I just remember it was like a real show that was taped in another country. Yeah, it was all Japanese and with the white dudes were just like real stupid commentators. They were like fry the contestants. Oh, this dude is ugly. He's not going to make it very far. I loved it.
Speaker 3:So I missed it. They fucking failed at this reboot. I wanted it to work so bad and it did not.
Speaker 3:If they would have promoted it better, then I would have definitely supported it. Well, I was watching it because I'm close to the nerd shit and I was following the reboot, and they were hiring people as influencers. And as a wrestling fan, they had got my boy, xavier Woods, who's a wrestler from the New Day, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, he was one of the personalities, so I was like, oh shit, it's gonna be tight, it's gonna be tight, and then a year goes by and no growth is happening and I'm just like fuck what is happening.
Speaker 3:I loved it. I couldn't watch all of it because I'm not a youtube dude, but I'll leave it on my tv if it's a channel. I'm just like that. I'm just an old dude, I'll watch that. But they just didn't do it right, man. It's really interesting that, real disappointing as a youtube channel only they were hoping to gear towards the young crowd, and it just didn't work but I just I think it's so crazy because if it's sponsored by comcast, comcast has so much money.
Speaker 2:They're a huge conglomerate. You know, did youtube like push it on their like discovery page at all? Like, if you just open up youtube blank, you know, without blogging in or anything, there'll be videos like suggested ones like they aired live.
Speaker 3:They aired live on youtube.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I feel like there was a lot yeah youtube has a lot of different ways of trying to trying to compete with the other ones, like you know, like hulu has the same thing and yeah that's so I think it is.
Speaker 3:There's so much space for that type of content. It is, but it's so oversaturated.
Speaker 4:Like there's so much option. Who's talking games?
Speaker 1:Who's talking games?
Speaker 4:Nerd culture.
Speaker 3:But the idea behind it for me is.
Speaker 1:If you want to bring it back out, why don't market to the people that used to watch it?
Speaker 3:So go back to yeah, Millennials. Dude, why didn't they do that? Mark it to the people that used to watch it? I'm angry.
Speaker 2:That's the other thing is they're trying to market it to Gen Zers. But Gen Zers are not playing the type of games they're playing Fortnite and stuff and some of that just doesn't translate to life.
Speaker 3:All the influencers.
Speaker 4:I didn't know any of them Okay so, that being said, what do you think? What app? Plenty of them, okay. So, that being said, what do you think? What app if us, our generation, gen Z or whatever, what do you think they're going to watch that the reboots at?
Speaker 2:If it had to be an app like an Amazon Prime or Netflix or something.
Speaker 3:Slash network that will like Well right now. Netflix is going into live at the end of the year with some sports.
Speaker 4:Yeah, of course now.
Speaker 3:And then Max has live sports. Yep, yeah, um, so it's happening. Live content is happening. Doesn't disney have espn?
Speaker 4:yeah but disney is kind of like movies and things like that, so it's like but, yes, they have espn, that's what she's saying yeah, so, yeah, so think about it like uh, paramount plus, but you're talking live content on disney, thinking about old, old stuff, reboot, so like say, if you want to reboot a old classic or something to bring back right and you want to get those same viewers, like I remember, like I said, paramount did bring out the real world, like for one minute, a hot minute, they literally showed all the old real worlds or whatever. Yeah, and even now they have all the older shows. Well, well, comcast would be Peacock.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what I'm saying, but that would be terrible, but still as much as the younger generation does determine what's hot and everything like that, or they don't really determine what's hot, they still be waiting for things to know what's hot. So if you were to put it out there and market it to the people who used to watch it, when we start clipping it up and making TikToks, putting it out there and market it to the people who used to watch it when we start clipping it up and making TikToks putting it out there and all of that, and then the kids find it, then they're going to get on it yeah, this is our shit.
Speaker 1:They don't know Exactly, so we we will still have to introduce it to them, the same way that we're introducing them to two thousands and nineties. Rmb and other things like that.
Speaker 3:I feel like there's far less. There's far less.
Speaker 4:That's old man.
Speaker 3:Old people like damn that's a lot of work.
Speaker 1:I gotta do I gotta?
Speaker 4:do all that work to get the stuff that I love doing, if you want the flash in the pan.
Speaker 1:That's what it's going to be. But if you put in the work to get what you're going to get out of it, that's what it's going to be also.
Speaker 1:So if you don't put in the work to actually market it properly and actually put it out properly, then it's not going to do what it's supposed to do. And, just like he said, they tried to market it to millennia. I mean to Gen Zers. But the idea behind it is a lot of Gen Zers don't care about what happened before them. No, unless somebody else told them.
Speaker 4:Hey that was dope. You should know about this. I mean, that's's a closing line, like how everybody's now doing the baggy jeans again, exactly yeah. And like, yeah, bell bottoms are making a comeback, yeah, yeah. It's like, what's that song? I know they are, but they're doing it wrong.
Speaker 2:There was some song from the 80s, a pop song. Uh, you know I'm running up that hill. You know it was like trending on stranger things exactly. It was on strangeranger Things. All the Gen Zers saw it and it's like viral and like everyone's following her. It's really great for the artist, but it's just interesting how trends from like way long ago are coming back Because it's a recycle, exactly. It's being presented to them for the first time.
Speaker 4:But that's always been this whole generation. Nothing's new under the sun. Nothing's new under the sun. Nothing is new. Everything is being recycled.
Speaker 1:And everything ends up getting recycled every 20 to 30 years anyway, so the fact that bell bottoms are coming out, that is an 80s thing. So, this is the first time where it's getting 40s.
Speaker 4:Anybody who has that old outfit from what's it called Jodeci oh shit, it's getting 40s. Anybody who has that old outfit from what's it called Jodeci, it's coming back.
Speaker 1:I hope niggas don't got leather suits still.
Speaker 4:If you got Jankos, they're coming back Stop.
Speaker 3:You couldn't even see your shoes when you wore those. I did have the zip off Cargo pants. They're coming back. Stop right now. You couldn't even see your shoes when you wore those.
Speaker 1:I did have the zip off cargo pants, the zip jar. They're coming back. Stop right now If any of you niggas come out with leather pants and a whole leather suit.
Speaker 4:They're coming back, bro, I bet you. I bet you. What's the dude from Pulp Fiction?
Speaker 1:DMV Fashion.
Speaker 4:Did we have somebody?
Speaker 1:with leather pants.
Speaker 4:Did we have somebody with leather pants? Did we have somebody with them?
Speaker 1:Oh man, and I told him to chill.
Speaker 4:I told him to chill. I don't know what it said.
Speaker 1:I told him to chill, but hey, and bell bottoms, what am I making sense? And the words.
Speaker 3:Leather bell bottoms.
Speaker 1:Yo, it was wild, that's wild, it was wild.
Speaker 2:That's a double whammy it was wild.
Speaker 4:But.
Speaker 1:It was a dangerous man.
Speaker 4:We can't speak on that right now, Mark. We can't speak on.
Speaker 1:But in the words of ego anywho, Anywho.
Speaker 2:Anywho, but yeah, no, Generation Content Recycles. It's a great time to be in content creation.
Speaker 1:I mean be in uh content creation so yeah, when a lot of people gonna get their money and a lot of people going. You know, yeah and and get some recognition so hopefully it's so it works out for everybody, all right.
Speaker 4:So like again. You know, you heard my third, anywho. Uh, annabelle, what else? What's the next step in your career that you're planning on jumping on?
Speaker 3:oh man, no, I was, which you can speak on no, I was really lucky to dip into the camera crew this year and they were able to embrace me and I was learning so much, um, so I'm just really hoping on growing in that field and, you know, being able to be a camera, being part of the camera crew on like a movie, would be amazing. Nice, being a batman project is my dream, doesn't?
Speaker 1:matter what it is but a batman project I guess all right, never mind, as as I just I just don't like batman, shit, I don't like batman.
Speaker 4:You know, black man you know, that could be another pod, that could be a oh no, we can definitely talk about it.
Speaker 1:Fuck that. If y'all won't get into it, we can get into it, it's fine. We don't have time for that. We don't have time for that. I give you that we don't have time for that it's fine when people don't understand.
Speaker 4:It's fine when people don't understand. All right, we got time for that. All right, and go in on movies, because actually I think it would be a dope ass topic.
Speaker 2:I think there's a lot that could be said.
Speaker 4:We could talk about movies and hip hop and Fuck Batman, hey, hey hey, what do you like?
Speaker 1:I mean, I just don't like Batman.
Speaker 3:What do you like though?
Speaker 4:I'm more of a Marvel guy.
Speaker 3:So, what do you like? I'm asking? You said fuck Batman to a die hard, so I want to know I mean why and who do you like?
Speaker 1:okay.
Speaker 3:Well then, if this is, I'm not talking to anger, I'm talking to patreon followers here. Who do I like?
Speaker 1:I like so many. I mean the avengers are all great although iron man is.
Speaker 2:Basically, why is it? Why is it so hurtful?
Speaker 4:no, no, in the avengers he is. Why are you?
Speaker 1:so hurtful let him speak. Let him speak, that's all iron man is completely different from batman on the simple fact that even in the first iron man army, in the first iron man movie, what did iron man do? He took out a terrorist organization. That's what he did. Oh yeah, I'm not arguing that.
Speaker 2:So when you look at but didn't Batman do that in Batman Begins? Hmm, I mean Arguably Wasn't Ra's al Ghul's place a terrorist organization? No, he was trying to blow up the city. What are you talking about? Are you talking about comics versus movies.
Speaker 3:I'm talking about like an international criminal organization, a some movies An international criminal organization. A League of Assassins. So you don't know, that's fine. No, peep peep, peep, peep, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Peep, peep, peep.
Speaker 3:It's fine. So Iron man is talking to a nerd.
Speaker 1:Iron man is completely different, because one Iron man also will tell you who he is. He's not hiding from nobody.
Speaker 3:I spoke for me, not for Animal man.
Speaker 1:My problem with Batman is Batman has the ability to take down so many different international criminal organizations, even just CEOs all types of things that he could take down but what does he spend his time doing? Chasing down a bunch of crazy motherfuckers and locking them up to the point that they get out over and over again and keep terrorizing the city. Yeah, because he's crazy just like them, and he walks around with a suit hiding his identity but also showing half of his face, which is completely wild to me.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of people, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3:Cyclops Wolverine Daredevil.
Speaker 1:A lot of superheroes. One have powers and two don't work closely with the police. Okay, batman works closely with the police. He's a detective.
Speaker 3:With the commissioner.
Speaker 1:Batman spends the majority of his time chasing down mentally ill people and common street thugs, fighting a bunch of people that have no powers and losing against them. Y'all get on my nerves losing against them.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, y'all getting my nerves.
Speaker 3:Y'all getting my nerves.
Speaker 4:This is nerd talk. Can we have a nerd talk podcast If?
Speaker 3:Superman was a killer. He couldn't be part of it, though.
Speaker 1:If Superman was a killer, he would wipe Batman's entire criminal, entire, all his enemies out in about 10 minutes and Batman spends his entire life messing with these people. But Batman can take out Superman, batman can take out everybody with powers, but he can't take out his own villains that don't have powers. It's not real. Cool man, y'all right. It's not real, y'all right. Do it, y'all right. Right. Powers, it's not real. Cool man, it's all right. It's not real, you're right. Do it, you're right, right. Every other superhero got to fight a whole bunch of people with powers and they have powers themselves to do and those villains are still around which villains?
Speaker 4:are still around all villains, all the villains, all of them, the way it's kind of like there's no way, there's no way that somebody's killed.
Speaker 1:Black Panther killed Killmonger, did he not? This is a movie, so what?
Speaker 4:are you? You're going back.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying, did he not? No, so you're talking like big, but you're only talking about movies.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm just, I'm literally just strictly speaking about that.
Speaker 2:But even the things no, I don't know that, so I'm literally just strictly speaking about that, but even the things that I'm saying about Batman are still.
Speaker 3:But you don't read comic books. Majority true, but you don't read comic books.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'm not deep into the comic books.
Speaker 3:I have read comic books, but I'm not deep, so your scope is limited.
Speaker 1:Very limited. I will say that Perfect Learn me something, so when it comes to movies, learn me something. Sure, perfect, learn. So, when it comes to movies, learn me something sure?
Speaker 3:no, learn me something. We've only seen one set of marvel movies to this point. Learn me something. No, I'm right, we've only seen one set of marvel movies. Yeah, that's all. And we've seen a couple iterations of batman at this point, but I can understand the fatigue, but once again I was more of a marvel person I watched
Speaker 4:I love spider man. I read I love spider man I read x-men comic books.
Speaker 3:I read you know what I'm saying the show in the 90s, the evolution of the dream. It just sounds like all the things you say you hate about Batman. It's just they're everywhere in comics. I don't like I said.
Speaker 1:I don't think once again, I don't think that all the other superheroes with powers worked close with the police. You don't like that aspect police and weren't trying their hardest to take out and weren't trying their hardest to take out their own enemies. If Wolverine could have took you out, he was taking you out. If Cyclops was taking you out, he was going to take you out. Spider-man was probably the only person that wasn't trying to hurt people. Ace Boogie.
Speaker 4:Stop what man we're having a talk no, we're not. We're going around in circles. This is one of those things. We're having a talk. I'm getting mad, I'm getting mad. Look, he's getting mad man. He ain't even in the talk.
Speaker 2:He's getting mad, but alright, well, cool hey we gonna dive into comics next time, then for sure. D DMV podcast. Hey, like comment subscribe if everybody has something to say Anibal.
Speaker 1:Anibal, thanks for coming bro once again, you're always welcome back. Of course, mark, appreciate you. Ego kiss my something this guy we'll try to do better next time. Absolute DMV out DMV peace.